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Old 07-04-2008, 02:00 AM
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This is only for the USA and CANADA as these are not for sell in the uk ...!!

But in the uk ....a 30w cfl cost about 8-9 pounds which is $ 16-19 bucks
where as them growing lights 125w cfls cost 15 pounds only 7 pounds extra
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I've heard the same good things about those 55W bulbs. Its all about the blunt shape of them. You can also get 15W and 20W as well as the 55W in the same style from 1000bulbs.com. The 55W ones are only 15$. if you buy 6 or more they are only 14$
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I like full spectrum bulbs, you can buy cheap ones at the hardware store but they are not full spectrum. Most of these lights have a small CRI (color rendering index) sorry for the poor spelling. With a full spectrum light you get a 80-90 CRI, (closer to actual sun) this is way better for plants due to it gives them all the benificial rays they need. It is not all about lumens and watts although these are important, you can have high lumens and not get the same benifits as you get from full spectrum lighting, check out Sunblaster.com - Sunblaster Resources and Information. This website is for sale!
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Yh my bad i see your point ...!! good information + rep ...!!

As people use cfls with heat problem....!!
Now you are getting it !

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This is only for the USA and CANADA as these are not for sell in the uk ...!!

But in the uk ....a 30w cfl cost about 8-9 pounds which is $ 16-19 bucks
where as them growing lights 125w cfls cost 15 pounds only 7 pounds extra
Damn , that is painful . They are giving out the small wattage CFL's for free around me to counter the rising electricity prices .

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I've heard the same good things about those 55W bulbs. Its all about the blunt shape of them. You can also get 15W and 20W as well as the 55W in the same style from 1000bulbs.com. The 55W ones are only 15$. if you buy 6 or more they are only 14$
Here is the link.
You understand where I am coming from .

I am not a big fan of having things delivered and have to pay someone each time they get a package for me and you will have S&H as well so I don't mind if it is a couple more dollars permalink


"I like full spectrum bulbs, you can buy cheap ones at the hardware store but they are not full spectrum. Most of these lights have a small CRI (color rendering index) sorry for the poor spelling. With a full spectrum light you get a 80-90 CRI, (closer to actual sun) this is way better for plants due to it gives them all the benificial rays they need. It is not all about lumens and watts although these are important, you can have high lumens and not get the same benifits as you get from full spectrum lighting, check out Sunblaster.com - Sunblaster Resources and Information. This website is for sale!
for the safety and convenience . If you got the $$ give them a try ."

Really good points but points for another argument . The point of me starting this thread was getting that much light with that little bit of heat . I stressed supplemental lighting but these would be great for your main lights in a CFL room with smaller lights of mixed spectrum . I am using them with T5's and HPS to supplement the light and get good exposure to the lower and inner parts of the plants , just like I said in the first post .

I only wanted to let people know about this find . I find it incredibly useful information being someone who likes to maximize my light to all parts of plants . This allows me to do that without damaging them . These bulbs will be great for people who have small stealth boxes as well since the plants can be that much closer .


I don't want to argue the point . I just think this will help some people . Take the information of this find and use it or don't but please don't try to discredit it without trying yourself . This could really help some of these people especially those who are limited on space . I own a 3 bedroom house and live alone and it is still beneficial . Those with small boxes could really benefit .


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And to the other person , I am glad you can have your's 3/4" away with no burn but these are more lumens with no burn and can be used in the same fixtures . They have a wider face as well for better light distribution . I have 5 of the 42w ones in there and they all get hot and if you use a reflector they get super hot .
They have 800 more lumens, and cost DOUBLE. For $20, I could buy a 3 pack of 42 watters. Im not saying that those lights arent effective, im saying they arent COST effective. They have a poor lumen to watt ratio, and are very very expensive!

If you want to use them, be my guest. But theres no benefit to it.
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Keep using the inferior product then. I don't care. I don't mind spending a few more dollars. My concern is the electric bill or I would fill 3 bedrooms with lights.Spending a few more dollars (in the grand scheme) is not something I need to even think twice about.
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Keep using the inferior product then. I don't care. I don't mind spending a few more dollars. My concern is the electric bill or I would fill 3 bedrooms with lights.Spending a few more dollars (in the grand scheme) is not something I need to even think twice about.

I've got to agree with you. I used to grow outdoors but my living situation changed a few years back. Now I'm indoors. I read alot about cfl grows before jumping into it. Excellent results. If you've got the extra bucks, it really does result in an incredible grow.....imho. Just my 2 cents worth.

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They have 800 more lumens, and cost DOUBLE. For $20, I could buy a 3 pack of 42 watters. Im not saying that those lights arent effective, im saying they arent COST effective. They have a poor lumen to watt ratio, and are very very expensive!

If you want to use them, be my guest. But theres no benefit to it.
The benefit is getting a few ounces of bud out of the lower nodes of your plants instead of a few little fluffy popcorn nugs here and there. Look at my flowering box:

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I'm using 42w CFLs for side lighting and its burning the hell outta my foliage. I've already ordered replacements with wider spirals to fix this problem so I can yield off the bottom of my plants to. I figure I'll get at least an extra QP off my plants with side lighting thats why I did it in the first place. Rep+ for OP. Thank you for this thread.
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my 42 watt cfl's don't burn anything and there kept 1'' away dumbass
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