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That's true in part, but by looking at the spectrum of the bulb and the lumen output, you can make a judgment as to the quantity of light available for use by your plant.

Red and blue count toward lumens, just not as heavily as green.

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LOL That's true in part NO not in part but its Ture ....end off ...

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say what ?

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Run your Dryer hose into a bucket of water. That'll catch the lint and keep the air clean. Just remember to check it every once in a while so it doesn't backup

well after two and a half hours of reading 14 pages and biting my lip to stop myself from tellin y'all to stop being a pack of bee-atches, i've come to the conclusion that i am no further on than when i started reading. painfull i know but i'm never getting those 2 and a half hours back!

for those of you who are still interested in helping those of us who are new to the whole growing at home to save geting ripped off by your dealer, i will post as much info as i can on my set up, in the hope that i will get some intelllient and coherent feedback on what my next move should be.

five weeks ago (on saturday just past) i planted my 4 unfeminized white widow seeds (post germination). these plants are in a wardrobe, the walls of which are covered in reflective foil. they are in regular potting compost with drainage at the bottom. the light i am using is a 64000 lum cfl, 125 watt, cool white. i have no preflowers as yet but i expect they are just around the corner which is why i am trying to find out which light to go for next. and soon. i vary between pure water and a water soluable feed which is 20-20-20 (sightly high i know but someone else did all the shopping and i have taken over the project due to privacy issues) which also contains all trace elements. the plants are currently on 18hrs, sometimes 24hrs just for a boost although carefull not to burn them out. there is also a hugh extractor fan by the door. there are only four plants however they are already quite tall. i was almost decided on buying a red or warm white 125 watt cfl for the flowering stage which i hope to begin next week until i came onto this site and now i've got myself into such a tissy because i don't know what to do now. when i saw the title of the thread i thought oh thank m.j herself! but all you guys did was bitch and winge and bitch some more. can someone please tell me, without jumping on my case for using cfl's in the first place, because god forbid i should get anything wrong on my first grow, with so much contradicting information out there etc etc etc,.... will i ruin my crop if i dont go hps?? should i try to scrog my plants so late on if i want to use a cfl rather than shell out for a hps/ mh and ballast? also is it better to encourage folliage growth or stem growth?? i've seen this argued everywhere and cant find a clear winner.

hoping to hear from you all soon.

except for all y'all bitches out there. you can just go pester someone else. i dont have time to read any more bull shit!

thanks, thanks and thanks again

well... i just finished a CFL grow and it went well. the bud was fuckin kill, nice and frosty...disco shit. you can harvest a very decent crop with CFLs. if you are looking for BIGGER, TIGHTER, and MORE buds a HID of some sort is the way to go. there is no reason to not get one if you can afford to purchase, and control one( temps, electricity) . CFL's can be more effectively used as vegging lights. they perform very well, are a lot cheaper to run, and will be staying on a lot longer than the HID used for flowering. i just dont think that they put out enough light YET to be able to produce like HIDs. hope this helps JAMES

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well-put. i think the most important considerations are how much space you're dealing with, how many plants you're growing, how big you want them, and what your expectations are.

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nice one. thanks for the input. i have a few questions. how many plants did u have under ur cfl?, did u do any pruning or scrog? how long did u have them in veg and flowering? and finally, what was your yeild?

No dryer should ever be vented inside a house it can create huge mold or dryrot problems, not the heat but all the moisure just being thrown right into your house and the wood it's made of.
Take the window glass panels out and cut a thick sheet of plywood to fit over the frame. Use drywall screws or whatever to attach it from inside. The cut a whole in it for your dryer vent and run the dryer out that hole to a proper vent cover like you'll find at any home depot or whatever. Vent your grow space the same way, get aluminum ducting and a vent cover and squirrel cage fan. Don't connect your grow duct to the dryer duct and run just one line out either, bad idea.

Make sure you have no light leaks or gaps for bugs to get in with spray foam.

You keep the window panes and if you ever want to reverse it all you can just unscrew the whole thing and mount the window panes back up.