Originally Posted by lastfrontier

you see it seem to me that people feel that if you give it the most intense light you can find and the best hydro setup that it equils dank fat buds and that is simpley not true.


CFL's do not have the danger or heat problems that HPS and MH have also it cost more all around to dissapate the heat and the smell with it also CFL's are self ballest in most cases and there are so many that if one goes out you dont have to shell up 150.00 or 250.00 or what if the ballast goes out what if either of them fail while you are out of town and you loose the crop if one or two fail then i loose a few lumens and keep on rockin again consider the fire danger while you are gone a fan can fail of trip the braker also they use less wattage and you are able to spread the light as you see fit in most cases instead of coming from a central location high above i will say in defence of the production grower large intense lights are a good and usefull thing because it cuts down on the doliers per OZ of production that in my opinion is the onley time you would need the extra lumens i my self will never grow more then 14 plants at a time i get around 3-5 OZ per plant with that light at 14 plants only geting 3 OZ per is still 42 OZ every 4 months what the hell will i do with all that and i am only using about 420-680 watts when you have MH and HPS you are stuck with on or two kelvin ratings and that is it with CFL's i can swap the kelvin rating as i see fit mabey i want to flower at 2100 kelvin mabey i like 6500 kelvin for veg or mabey i want to try 4500 kelvin for veg and see if i get a better sun leaf with CFL's there is room for discovery and creativity we know that all strands are not the same and come from diffrent parts of the world mabey you would like to plant all dark purple indiga and the next crop you want to plant a virgin sativa they have diffrent requirments for light and with CFL's you can provide that with half the cost just remember people that the higher you go in watts when buyin a single CFL bulb the lower you go in lumens per watt stay at 26-55 watts and that is the best spot to stay...................... here are the periods that belong up there disperse them as you please

Originally Posted by lastfrontier

is that all you have to write about what a wast of time and server space blow some green and calm down looser here are some periods and such put them where you please if you are so concerned about it.................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!!!! !!!!!!!'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Originally Posted by chishoik

You see, it seems to me that people feel that if you give it the most intense light you can find and the best hydro setup, that it equals dank fat buds. That is simply not true.


CFL's do not have the danger or heat problems that HPS and MH have. Also, HPS and MH cost more all around to dissapate the heat and the smell associated with it. CFL's are self ballasted in most cases and there are so many that if one goes out you don't have to shell up 150.00 or 250.00. What if the ballast goes out or what if either of them fail while you are out of town? You loose the crop. If one or two fail, then i loose a few lumens and keep on rocking! Again, consider the fire danger while you are gone. A fan can fail or trip the breaker. Also, they use less wattage and you are able to spread the light as you see fit instead of coming from a central location high above. I will say in defence of the production grower, large intense lights are a good and usefull thing because it cuts down on the dollars per OZ of production. That, in my opinion, is the only time you would need the extra lumens. I myself will never grow more than 14 plants at a time, from which I get around 3-5 OZ per plant with that light. At 14 plants only geting 3 OZ per plant is still 42 OZ every 4 months! What the hell will i do with all that? I am only using about 420-680 watts. When you have MH and HPS you are stuck with one or two kelvin ratings and that is it. With CFL's, I can swap the kelvin rating as i see fit: maybe I want to flower at 2100 kelvin, maybe I like 6500 kelvin for veg, or maybe I want to try 4500 kelvin for veg and see if i get a result.

With CFL's there is room for discovery and creativity. We know that all strains are not the same and come from different parts of the world. Maybe you would like to plant all dark purple indiga and the next crop you want to plant a virgin sativa. They have different requirements for light and with CFL's you can provide that with half the cost. Just remember people that the higher you go in watts when buyin a single CFL bulb the lower you go in lumens per watt. Stay at 26-55 watts and that is the best spot to stay...................... Here are the periods that belong up there disperse them as you please!

^well, I figure if thats going to be a sticky, might as well make it legible lol

Originally Posted by lastfrontier

so hate all you want because it dose not bother me mabey if you spent less time hating and more time reading you would yeild better results and would not bother worring about me or what i write