I was playing around on Google sketch-up (I suck) But I came up with this 420w SCROG/SOG fixture idea. It is in the very beginning stages of design so i cant give exact specs, but I can give approximate numbers.
I am gonna build this fo sho, anyways here are the tenative numbers and pics of the 3d model

Holds 10- 42w CFLS:
About 420w and 27,000 - 30,000 lumens

Should be about 24"x20"x6" (wXdXh)

Uses 3 80cfm CPU fans sucking air through the air filter, blows through the light fixture, and then exhaust's out of box.

This should keep the box cool and the lights cool as well. Plants should be fine touching glass panel on the bottom, which means you can always have your lights right on your plants!

This fixture is designed to live in a 3sqf approximate area, and would provide just about 10,000 lumens per sqf.

Pics:
1. View from exhaust side
2. View from exhaust side zoomed in
3. View from bottom
4. View from top

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interesting.....let us know how it goes.

i will, I probably wont build it until my current round of plants get done flowering and the ones that are veggin right now go into the flower cab

oh this is a flower only light, but could be used for veg just as well i guess

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Lol I was concerned with a lack of replies, then I realized its 3 am, I need to learn to sleep at night

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Oh and the reason I call this a scrog/sog light is that you keep a even canopy and that makes the intensity of cfls a non issue, because penetration isnt really an issue

If this fixture is right on the plants they are getting around 28000 Lumens

If a 400w HPS is 8-9 Inches away from the plants they are getting around 28000 lumens

Now why I want the cfl fixture over the HPS? Spectrum, this fixture puts out more prime spectrum light for flowering than the HPS
(HPS spikes at 2200k and CFL spike at 2700k, basically the best flowering spectrums are 2300k-2450k and 2600K - 3100K)
*EDIT* I thought I should back this up more... this is a portion of an article from Skunk Magazine, from the "Ask Ed" feature by Ed Rosenthal:

"Plants use mostly red and blue light. Yellow and green light is of little use to them, so light that is emitted in these spectrums is wasted energy. Most of the light emitted by HPS lamps is in the yellow spectrum. Only a small amount of the emitted light is is in the orange or red spectrums, which plants use efficiently. Warm white fluorescents (2700 Kelvin) emit a greater portion in the red and orange sectors.
Although fluorescents produce only about 75% of the light per watt that the HPS does, the amount of light usable by the plant is equal or probably higher with the fluorescents."

Next round of flowering is gonna a scrog using this fixture and DWC, I wonder if I can hit 1g per watt with this setup
(yes I know that is 14.81 ounces, i be keeding about getting that in one harvest, that would be four 3.7 ounce plants)

Oh and I do NOT want to argue about HID vs. CFL or about stacking lumens or anything, If you came to this thread just to argue, save you and I both the frustration and just leave without posting...

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sup bro, im a cfl guy to the max i am currently doing a grow and i am using just cfls, but i gotta argue with this. if i remember right hps do very good for flowering because they emmit 1800k spectrums which is a deep red orange. too bad there is no cfl made that gets lower then 2700k, because if there was it would work wonders for flowering compared to the 2700k bulbs

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actually the best area for flowering is the 2650K-3100K, this is where all the red and orange is, 2300k - is mostly yellow an of not of much use to the plants during flowering, im not trying to argue or be a dick or anything, but i have done tons of research and got this answer everytime, but still, thanks for the input dude, oh and they make 2500k CFL's, but nobody uses them cause 2700 is better (other peoples opinions who have tried 2500k's not mine)

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To the people who view this page an dont reply, Please do, there is a good chance that i forgot something or one of you guys can give me advice, so if its not too much lol please give me your input!

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Wow only one person in the entire cfl growing community has a thought on this? i posted this in hopes of getting feedback so i can improve the design, c'mon someone has to have an opinion, concern, doubt, suggestion, or improvements, it wont take too long to respond, and very little effort, I promise *lazy ass stoners* ha ha jk

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lol, it takes alot to get their attention sometimes, say something to piss em off, that'll usually get some responses.lol. nah, but seriously, its a good idea and all but most would just rather get an hps and be done with it. threads w/o fighting in em dont live very long alot of times. figured i'd bump this thread back up to the top for ya, do you plan on hooking em all up w/the ballast wiring or having like a power strip or something in there? if ya had a power strip maybe you could switcch the spectrums and use it for veg and flower. it looks good, have you started building it yet? i'm subbed and will be watching, good luck bro, just dont kill yourself making it.