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Old 07-11-2009, 12:36 PM
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Talking First Time Complete Grow CFL all organic
Well i had a few draw backs in the beginning. I attempted to go organic hydro big mistake on my part I could never get the ph to balance out no matter what i tried to do so after about 2 weeks of torture to my poor babies i transplanted them. I switched them over to an all organic potting soil with no added nutrients so i could control the variables.. I continued to use the bio biz line of organics.


here they are after their upgrade to a land plot.


also the bigger pot they will be planted in as well as my cloning tray simple jiffy puck deal.

I currently have them in a cabinet that is aprox. 4ftx2ftx1ft the walls are lined in a 20g aluminum sheeting. The material has a brushed finish so it reflects the light in a dispersed pattern. Up top there is a cooling fan blowing out the cabinate into a charcoal filter and then out the house.



As far as lighting here it is
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Veg 5600lumen @ 6500k and 5200lumen @ 2700k
total:10800lumen 192 watts 96w per sq ft
Bud 10400lumen @ 2700k and 2800lumen @ 6500k
total:13200lumen 222wats 111w per sq ft
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Veg only 3400lumen @ 2700k and 2800lumen @ 6500k
total:6200lumen 106 watts 53w per sq ft

so the lighting is good i hope i didnt go overboard and i hope i have enough...

As far as nute concentration i started seed and clones around 300 to 400 ppm of rootjuice and just a lil bio grow then later moved to full line and cut out the rootjuice after a couple week then over time bumped it up like 150ppm at a time till i got to around 1000ppm.
I also bought a reverse osmosis system because i city water is at like 500ppm from the tap still 200 after filtering so i wasnt to impresed with that. ppm on water starts at 7 on the nuts then drops to around 6.6 w nuts and the soil runs around that area it drops below 6.7 i flush it with 7.0 water or a lil higher just to balance it out.

Here they are after their upgrade into bigger pots...



You can really tell the plants on the two sides were the ones that took the blunt of the damage during the hydro feasco.

The guy in the middle on the other hand is doin kickass




Down below i also have to fans pulling air in to be sent up above then filtered and so on i just used a stainless bathroom light fixture down here and it works wonders although i would like to put a backer board in so i can mount them horizontally down there to make a lil more room.




So all this was like well i think about 2 months ago the babies had so recoupin to do before they really even grew again but now they have bounced back and are makein me proud here are the new pics of my girls.







I can't wait to taste them...


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Middle plant

The plant in the middle has great corndogs goin but the other two are different plants the one on the left branched out alot after starting to bud it smells the best but isnt fillin in like id like her to. The plant on the left is about halfway between the two plants thicker growth but not quite what id like, but lookin good none the less i shouldnt complain cause their alive damnit.


Left plant

Shes got the most delicious smell though i hope she kicks into overdrive in the next couple day here.

heres the fully


The box runs around a constat 86 to 89 degrees never above 92 and usually never below 70 so thats good and humididy is around 40 to 50 down below and only 15 to 25 up above so i think thats good too.. i think...

So there it is. I hope im doin things right but there are so many mixed reviews on different things i dont know what to think some times so if i am failing miserably in an area please smack me up side the head and straitin me out!!! Cause Id rather be ready for my next round of girls to be even better!


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Old 07-11-2009, 02:19 PM
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oh yea also wondering on what the best way to tell when to harvest the buds and can you harvest some and let others grow.
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Old 07-11-2009, 02:49 PM
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that looks like an amazing first cfl grow man. good job.
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:03 PM
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good job man the best way to tel are amber to cloudy trichs get a magnifine glass an look if there clear t cloudy dont harvest btw trichs are the bigs water drop looking things hairs sometimes can be an indicator but mostly miss leading if you dont know the strain so pick up the magnifine glass an make an observation
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I would try to keep that ph more around 5.8 you will see a huge difference
are you using mollassis?

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Old 07-11-2009, 06:49 PM
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LOL, I use that same PH Up/Down. the sell it at the pet store along with a Ph test kit for $5 each(up, down, test kit) the bottle i had was smaller than yours and ive had it for like 2 years. BTW, What strain is that? Looks very sativa dominent.
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:46 PM
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That cabinet is sweet. Can you tell us about it. The plants look good too.
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:02 PM
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thanks for the info on the trichs the middle plant looks like shes about a week or so away from the high i want i think shes just startin to cloud on a few so im gona let he go just a bit more i think ill harvest the mid girl weave the branches from the two side plants in then lower the lights to try and thicken the other two babies...

As for my lil box i just used one of those 35 dollar target brand closets takes like 10 min to set up then like i said a roll of aluminum was like 20 and well worth it.. Its heave duty and i also sealed the panels with silicon so water couldnt soak into the wood cause its that particle board shit and it just turns into a sponge when its wet.. a 12volt 300cfm fan up pullin out w/ two 140cfm comp fans down below pullin in. and one by the stems for good air movement across plants...

The shelve was ment to be up top but i just screwed it in where i wanted her and since i do 24 hr light for my clones and veg i figured down below was best also a garage gasket i screwed onto one side of the door so when i latch it with the laches i put on just a lil light comes out the botum which i coved with a lil open cell camper foam tape

light are just ceramic mouts i put onto a galvinized relector i maid instead of those huge round things they come with.. i even figured out my system take about 23 dollars a month to run electricity wise if i have everything runin all the time otherwise it takes like 16 a month so kick ass on costs..
i tried usin hps and mh but the ballasts just made too much heat to be in a box in a closet to much residual heat got pulled back into the box the temps we in the low hundies so i bailed off of them the cfls work just as well if not better i thinkn cause u can really tuck them close. no worries about burnin by the bulbs plus no explosions hehe.

But yea she does me good so far and i just scored some nice purple haze pollinated by afghani seed form the fest so i cant wait to get those babies goin.

Thanks for the posts guys!!!

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Old 07-12-2009, 07:09 PM
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i really wana get one of those gas safty boxes we have at work there like 4ft wide by 4 tall and about 2 deep double wall steal air tight design but they are spendy but i would love to use one put it out in a garage instead of in my closet anybody asks its my gas bin plus they come with double locks gigidy but heres mine when its closed



you can tell i need to replace my seals up top cause of the light...
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yea the one in mid has to be a hundred percent sativa but the the girls on the side look to be like me 60 40 mix mabe but yea they we mystery beaners i believe the one in the mid might have been from some ak and the one on the left i think is a some kida skunk bud i picked some the other day and tried her out shes still got some time i got a hell of a head high but im lookin for the body buzzzz mmmm.
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on the molasis yes the bio bizz bio grow is mainly a molasis base and its thicker than shit goda go like a quarter what the direction say to use or the ppm jumps to like 2500 damn strong ive been carefull with this stuff cause alot of people seem to have done alot of nute burnin with the stuff.. oh yea the fish mix reaks to beat all hell but it works wonders
 

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