4th day of flowering; Jock Horror, fem Snow White, fem AK47 autoflower; 1st CFL grow - Page 2

jjrd117 · #11 04-29-2009, 04:05 PM

So here they are at 31 days old and I'm getting ready to switch to flowering lights and schedule. On day 29, I switched the light schedule to 18/6, and also took out all the wires I was using for lst to give them a bit of a break. When the lights went out at the end of this day, I pulled the plug and let them sit in complete darkness for what worked out to be about 34 hours. I had read that this can speed up the sexing, as well as harvest, by a little bit so I'd thought I'd give it a try. (I'm going to have a house full of company for a few days right around harvest time. The AK47 and Snow Whites shouldn't be a problem, but I'll either need to take an earlier harvest (by like a week) on the Jocks, or strectch see it can stectch them by a week or two. I also wasn't expecting to have the success I've had with everything and wouldn't mind finding a couple males to help thin the crop a little.)

Here they are right before the extended dark cycle.

jjrd117 · #12 04-29-2009, 04:18 PM

... and when the lights come back on. This day, after the dark period, they ended up getting about 8 or 9 hours of light before going to the steady 12/12 schedule. It just kinda worked out that way with how I wanted the 12/12 schedule.

I also started them on bloom nutes at this time (Soul Synthetics Bloom, 1.5-4.5-3, ingredients: bat guano extract, alfalfa extract, kelp, yucca extract, molasses, potassium nitrate, potassium phosphate, calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate). Initially, I've started with a 2:1 of the bloom to grow nutes, but will switch to straight bloom at the end of this week. I've been really pleased with the results from the nutes... I've found you can even double the recommended application rate without getting any nute burn.

jjrd117 · #13 04-29-2009, 04:32 PM

Here they are on flowering day 2. I forgot to mention that I also switched the lights I was usinga couple days ago. So now I have 4 mack-daddy 68w 2700K (Home Depot, approx. $15 a piece), 4 42w 2700K and 2 40w 5000K. That gives me 520 total cfl watts and approx. 32,500 total lumens (or approx. 4643 lumens per plant). Once I'm able to determine the sexes on those Jocks, I'm going to get a couple more of the full spectrum (5000K) for some more side lighting. I really wouldn't mind finding at least 1 male, as I'm about at the minimum of recommended lumens per plant for flowering.

Speaking of which, I saw some of my first pistils today on one of the Jocks!

jjrd117 · #14 04-29-2009, 04:38 PM

And on to day 3 of flowering, and they're all looking good! They measure from 4" to 6" in height, and my strongest Snow White and Jock show 10-12 tips.

jjrd117 · #15 04-29-2009, 04:58 PM

I also decided on day 3 that I want to get back to a little more lst on all of them to help even them out in height, and also fill them out a little more. So more lst and I took them down to about 3 1/2". I think I'll continue with the lst only through the end of the week, or until I start to see some actual flowers, whichever happens first. I've run out of room in the pots! Not to mention, it requires a lot of handling and that's not anything I want to do once they start producing the good stuff.

Also, I had read that you can fim through the 1st week of flowering... anyone have any thoughts/experience with that? I thought that since it didn't seem to work out before, I might try it again on just one of two of the numerous tops I now have.

And that completes the backstory... feel free to ask any questions about it.

bakedat420 · #16 04-29-2009, 10:33 PM

damn man you went from like sprout to flower in like a day thats crazy man..haha you musta spent the whole day here on RIU writing all that...your plants look awesome keep up the great work!

jjrd117 · #17 04-30-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bakedat420

damn man you went from like sprout to flower in like a day thats crazy man..haha you musta spent the whole day here on RIU writing all that...your plants look awesome keep up the great work!

yeah, man, big mistake on my part! i won't be doing that again...!

Day 5 of flowering.... all the plants are still under lst (without doing any new lst anywhere on 'em), and I think I'll let it go a few more days and just set them all free as I don't want to induce any more stress now that they're in the flowering stage.

BUT, I did fim a couple of the Jocks. I had read a post about being able to do so during the first week of flower, and this has all been a bit of a grand experiment in ways so I thought I'd give it another try (my earlier fim attempts didn't produce any results). One of the Jocks had 13+ tops, and the other had around 10, so I just did it on one top on each plant. We'll see what happens!

No new info on sexes of the Jocks, but my feminized AK47 autoflower is showing some nice white hairs now. She's about 3 1/2 weeks old. I've also been training her for the last couple weeks and have about 6 tops now. I'm curious to see how that'll all work out, considering the genetics and all.

I'll post some more pics weekend....

jjrd117 · #18 05-04-2009, 01:01 AM

On day 8 of flowering now, things still seem to be going well. In fact, it kinda looks like I got my own little sea of green going on (maybe a lake of green). It's a farkin' beautiful thing, man!

The canopy is now up to about 9" - 10", and I pulled all the wires out I was using for lst. No more lst (at least I think at this point) as I just want them to do their thing now.

I positively identified a male Jock Horror today... he's in a separate room now and is destined for hash or hash oil (maybe honey oil). Kind of a shit thing to say, but I'm kinda relieved to find the male, too, as I was one plant over my med legal limit. I think 2 out of the 3 Jocks that are left are females, and believe I'll be able to tell for sure in a another couple days.

I've been having a real bitch of a time with humidity for about the last week-and-a-half or so. Temps have been fine, ranging from 74-78 F during the day with the occasional spike up to 80 or 81. During the night, it drops by about 10-12 degrees. Humidity, however, has been off the charts, averaging around 75-85 percent. A couple times at night, it's even hit 91 percent! I figure it's mostly been due to all that transpiration going on. When I vent the room (open the door), it'll drop to 55-60 percent. I did notice today that once I took that male out, humidity levels did come down some, and I also reconfigured the fans I have in there, which also helped bring it down to around 60-65 percent.

I haven't been too psyched on the prospect of cutting holes in any walls, but I decided that I'm going to build a carbon scrubber tomorrow to help with ventilation, humidity, as well as get some odor control going.

Would love to hear some feedback if anyone has some... how my plants looking?

jjrd117 · #19 05-18-2009, 01:43 PM

hey there,

haven't posted in a while, so i thought i'd get some new pics up. i've definitely been having my share of issues too!

- Built a carbon scrubber, based off this thread Easy to Build DIY Carbon Filter, to help with humidity. Made a few modifications based on local availability of some products and it really helped with the humidity problems i was having. it seems to help with the odors too. i'll get a little whiff of that smell-i-love-so-well once in a while when i have the door cracked for ventilation, but otherwise don't notice many/any mj odors. (i'm also using a couple ona gel-type products.)

- One of my feminized Snow White's went a little hermie on me... or at least was beginning to show tendicies towards that so i chopped it. it was the total runt of the crop but i had kept it around cause i figured i'd get a little something off it anyway as it was supposed to be feminized. i had also LST and FIM'd it, so i'm sure all that extra stress didn't help. i also read a couple threads about how feminzed seeds can tend to have a high hermie rate... sometimes up to 50%! anyway, i made some butane hash oil out of it, which ultimately wasn't worth the effort.

- Developed some magnesium deficiencies, along with perhaps some Ca and K problems as well. Petioles were turning very red and while new growth had slowed, I was getting some serious stretch. I had been using just tap water (always pH tested that consistently resulted in the 6.2-6.4 range) so i think i got some salt buildup and nute lockout. i gave the girls a good flush a little over a week ago and have since only been using distilled water. (pH of the runoff measured 6.2-ish just before the flush.) i also picked up some new nutes that are a little higher in the ratios, Pura Vida Organic Bloom (2-6-6). Now i use a little mixture of the Soul Synthetics and Pura Vida because they each have different trace elements available (2 parts PV: 1 part SS). You can still see the nutrient problems (namely the red petioles and on some leaves), but the girls seem to be doing better. (btw, 3 out of the 4 Jock Horrors turned out to be female....)

i'm sure i'll start posting more pics now that i have some of that sweet diggity-dank going....

rhyzo · #20 05-18-2009, 02:15 PM

looking good mate, keep it up

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