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Old 02-18-2009, 02:57 PM
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Default orange and black like spot on seedlings?
no pics maybe later tonight if web cam works even then proly wun be good pics.. so i will try to describe the problem the best that i can


3 seedlings
2about 1 week old maybe a few more days there on there 3-4th node and about 2-3 inches tall..
1 few days old has its first single serated leaves..

65+night temp never lower
lights on temp ramges from 82ish to 91ish at times(record high since start) Farenhieght

45-55 humidity most of the time its pretty steady

5 cfl's.. 4 26watt 6500k and 1 42 watt 2700

20/4 light schedule

hyponex soil
perlite
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bag seed but very indica dominate

new growth tips have had a purple since first set of leaves(all) 1 had more purple than the other and the other from same bag.. had justa tinge of purple and but they grow out of it leaving justa tinge of purple on one and none on the other when the leaves grow the tinge is only on the top ridges on new leaf growth

and the other seedling has a lil p[urple also but not as mature(not to worried about the purple though from wut i have read)

ok the big question

the other day i noticed a rusty more pumpkin orange/rusty/light tanish color color spot on the more purple one i look this afternoon and th spot has got bigger and spread a lil bit but more lil orangish spots and blackish/grayish blotches on them, the spots kinda got a shinny surface have appeared on all!!!! but only on the first true serated leaves.. when u lift the leaf and look under and towards the light the blackish gray spots are all over the first set of true serated leaves.

i used fish fert and peroxied and a lil root starter after they were about 1inch tall and on the un opened seedling VERY!! minute strenth ahve nuted since they showed no signs of burn at all.. now its been proly 4-5 days since that (just watering when soil is dry) and yesturday i saw the orange spot and today is a lil bigger and the blackish grayish spot ar also on the rest of the plants. i hope this make sense to sum one could really use the insight looked all over the FAQ and search isn't working >.<

oh and once i seen all the spot and plants needed water i flushed themrun off was pretty clear i presonally didn't see ne yellow tinge

so ne ideas wut it may be?

so i have looked. so if ur gunna just tell me to search or go look in FAQ.. please dun waste ur time posting it...also please don't critazize me for feeding earlyi know i know i know.. it was a slight experiment they actually seemd to love it witha big shot of growth they looked healthy as can be then these damn spot apearred yesturday..


thanks to all who read this for their time and input. thank you.

i don't havea ph metter yet but its on the to get list


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Old 02-18-2009, 08:48 PM
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update... the orange and blackish spots are spreading and is getting a crispy feel and part actual crumpled up MG Def. maybe? also the top of the leaf where the spots are have a shiny look to them and this is only on the first true serated leaves and starts in the mid section and is spreading rapidly towards the main stem and tip on the leaves on all plants!!! plz the problem is getting worse plz help i need info! or my babies are gunna be dead in a few days at the rate this spreading and its onlt the first serated leaves!!! all are affected to a degree growth has REALLY slowed down on all of them all the other leaves look fairly normal.. at least not affected yet... so i think... HELP plz. thanks for ur time

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I had the same prob. with mine when they were little, with a little investigating i figured out that i was over nutting, thats why there was a def. flush ur plant with straight up h20 and wait a day or two, see if it still spreads, mine stopped and i cut my nutes in half, now shes healthy as can be
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:04 PM
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I had the same prob. with mine when they were little, with a little investigating i figured out that i was over nutting, thats why there was a def. flush ur plant with straight up h20 and wait a day or two, see if it still spreads, mine stopped and i cut my nutes in half, now shes healthy as can be


thanx for the info it is greatly appreciated.
the first day i seen it i watched it. seemed to be spreading but let it go another day just in case it was a blemish or sumthing.. then it really spread so i flushed right away once i was postive it was spreading it seems to have at least slowed/stopped since the flush. still no spots or wut not on the other leaves. also added a bigger exhaust fan and took them outa the stright wind of the comp fan and rose the lights to bout 4inches away from the top temp is bout 85ish at tops of the plants. checked this morning they seem perkier. hope the problem is solved.
(((( maybe "wind burn" combined with high heat?))))

(also if ne one knos a link or can post a pic of wond burn that would be awesome .. i can't seem to find a good pic.)


also a lil twist 1 of them has orange brown crusty mid section its like dry and dead and its bro/sis (germed same time) only has the blackish grayish spots in the mid section of the leaf and the other lil seedling
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What ur saying sounds like a mix between heat and nuts, these babies can handle alot of wind, as long as the leaves are not hitting the fan blade
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update.... well after they're flush them seemed to be getting better and starting to grow again butnow the plant with more purple and the one that got the orange spots is getting the grayish blackish spots in the first set of 3 leaves... ?? i dunno wtf this is... i they around in about 78-80 F now and the fan isn't directly on them and the light are like 3-4 inches away. humidity is 50%-60% night temp is about 65ish and have gotten only bottled water..( is bottled water bad at ll i herd from sum1 it contains chemicals for taste some of them..) ne truth to that? i need help i don't know wut to do... i can't find nething on this... thx for ur time

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update: the geyish spots and starting to turn brownish where they used to be the greyish color and spreading it only seems to be the middle leaf and in the middle of it and in between the veins also it seems like the main stem is kinda starting to turn purple/redish they were a pretty normal green color a few days ago so i noticed this today it is more purple/redish than than green now( am i just freaking or is the problem getting worse?

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week old seedlings? you shouldn't be doing anything to them. not watering not feeding. one watering will last a week. they barely have any roots. they won't need food for at least 3 more weeks.

i think you are over watering. without seeing pics.
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the roots are threw out the soil tipped them up side down yesturday and the roots were white and fuzzy(micro root as i under stand?) the soil dry fairly quick since the problem they actually been using less watter they are about 3 inches tall and on their 4-5th nodes and the tips of the fan leaves are just reaching outside the rims of the pots
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