Today is day number 34 for my ak47 lowryder plants. I am using two 85w cfls one red spec one blue spec, also 4 14w red spec cfls, and 1 right now but fixing to be 2 42w red spec cfls. #1 which was the first to sprout is looking like a fucking bush right now. #2 started about a day after #1 and didn't even start growing roots until about the second week she really had me scared. I am also using hydro set up not soil. plants look really good as I said #1 shows no sign of heat damage but #2 does. comments are welcome please no rude ones though.

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Anybody with any feedback let me know please..... I know they look a little short but hps will be coming soon really in my opinion the cfls are good but not the best they create as much or if not more heat than an hps I have learned through trial and error. I was battling super high temps at the begininng of the grow with temps reaching 93 degrees with just the 6 lights running and then I just added one of the 42w's b/c of the heat issue

your leaves don't look healthy...

what kind of water are you using? if it's tap water, are you letting it sit out for 24h so the chlorine can evaporate? the leaves look bleached..

I believe those leaves show magnesium deficiency. Not sure where in the GrowFAQ I found this, but ya, other than that good luck and happy growing.

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Ya see I thought they looked weird ummm I know the curling is from the heat but I know how that happened. Ummm no I didn't think to leave the water out for 24 hours but I do only use one 1 gallon pitcher to fill the res. The Ph of the water is perfect so thats why I'm using it. When they were much smaller the bigger one #1 had little red spots all over her leaves even before I started the nutes. I thought it was a little bit heat cause they were also curling up at the tip. As for the magnesium def. I add 6 teaspoons of epsom salt every time I change the res out. Which is once is a week. Next time I clean it out which will be this thursday I will try and figure out some way to let all 6 gallons sit out for 24 hours. Oh one more thing purple stems on some of #2. If I'm not mistaken I think that would be a nitro deff but I don't know.

Ok so I am going to try the sitting water out for 24 hours I am going to change the res tonight when I get off work I got close to six gallons but I'll just sit some more out and just keep filling it till its full with the distilled water. #1 is still looking WAY better than #2 I guess she is recovering slow from the heat damage.

Oh no when I went to change the res out today I found a bunch of these little black bugs all over #2's roots!!!! They was only two on the #1's roots I cleaned off all the bugs I could find on #2 but I don't know how much damage I did to the roots. I had to like scrap them off of the roots. Hopefully its not to bad. I'll be checking the roots every so often to see if they are coming back. If they come back I think I'll have to cut down #2 I don't want those little things on my good plant!!!!! Somebody give me some feedback what do I do?????

I agree, looks like EARLY Mag.deficiency , keep a look out for the tips of the leaves looking like they are scorched and curling UP, also , look for scorched / rusty looking areas .
You can add a couple teaspoons of Epson Salts to a gallon of water , or spray the leaves with a 2 % solution of ES. Good luck.

Ok well when I changed the res the other day I added 8tbs I don't know if that is tablespoon or teaspoon but I figured since 4 of those wasn't working I would double it. And yes it starts at the tips of the leaves and then travels to the base of the leaf. So I think your right on that one. I am going to take some pics after this post and upload them. Thanks LOU for the answer on the leaves

New Pics They start with #1 and then to #2 which you can still see the heat damage. Veg growth has slowed way down so I think those nasty leaves are going to stay unless it gets a little bit taller. but also you can see the roots that I found the bugs on I pretty much got them all I keep checking like twice a day and when I find any I just scrap them off. Nothing like before

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