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Old 10-20-2008, 02:57 PM
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Hello GThumbs, After about a month of homework I finally got my Rubbermaid/CFL box up and running. Its ample on the duct tape side atm, but those plastic 4" vent connectors are like $7 bucks a pop, so they'll have to wait. Im using 6 CFL's atm for veg, 2 42w and 4 23w. My plants arnt as close to the light as I'd like with my box's design (heatshield, multi chamber) but I raised them as close as I could without kissing the plexi glass.

I initially planted them seedlings outside in the pots of some misc. plants I had outside the house. Learning experiance #1 (know what your putting your plants in!, I know bad idea, I've learned so lets move on shall we? Next after realizing the mistake I made with starting the seedlings in some mystery soil (one had some flowers in it, the other some kind of cactus) I decided it was time to bring them in the house about a week later...

I repotted them like the noob I am, taking a spoon to the soil neglecting any root structure below, though the plants were still pretty young Im sure I did some damage to one of them due to its root system looking like a clone with freshly sprouted roots would look i assume.

I repotted them (2) in 2 8" round pots, in MG organic mix, with proper portions of vermiliian, perlite, lime, blood/bonemeal. Needless to say the MG was a bad choice but all I could get my hands on atm, I got the fox farms growbig, big bloom and tiger bloom about 2 weeks after moving the plants inside and have only watered them once with growbig to date. Also I order foxfarms ocean blend and some bigbuddha bluecheese w/ free g13 powerskunk today from attitude, (soil from closest hydro store in state.


My Temps in the box are like 70 - 88f off/on, useally stays under 85f long as the house is cool via rainy day or ac. I've been burning these babies bad with the choice of soil though im not sure what exactly is it lacking or drowning in. After breaking out the old schoiol ph soil test kit I've learned that the plants are high in N and Pot yet low in PHop. So I figured now was a good time to introduce them to thier first feeding of biggrow (which i read lowers nitrogen).

Im on my 4th week of veg. and the plants are very small for thier age which I attribute to bad soil, bad xplant and root damage, in fact Im surprised thier still alive to be honest, 1 looks like 3 weeks older then the other even though they were seeded/planted same day, but remember i butchered ones roots during xplant and was more careful on the 2nd xplant.

Heres some pics I took a cpl days ago of the burn symptoms of the bigger plant. Tell me what yas think of my trial run at this awsome hobby
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:01 PM
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dont feel like reading your whole thread but it looks like your plant is suffering from heat stress. move your lights 3-4 inches away from the foliage and get a fan circulating some fresh air, i would top it wait a week than put it into 12/12
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:06 PM
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wow quick advice, thx man.

Those pics were taking over the weekend and after watering with their first taste of biggrow the new growth seems to be better with no curling downwards or yellow tips. I'll take some pics tonight of both plants so you can see how they look currently. I'm hesitant to switch them to 12/12 because I have 2 going atm and (as you'll see w/e i up new pics) 1 is alot further along then the other and moving it to 12/12 now with the other so young, im not sure althought i hear some prefer 12/12 cycle from seed so iunno, we'll see.

oh and in regards to topping, I've only read up on LST and SCrog techniques so far so I'll have to do some more homework to see what you mean, I believe its cutting off the top? Not sure if its literally cutting it off (which I doubt) or simply tie the top down which sounds better then "cutting"

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Old 10-20-2008, 03:09 PM
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glad to hear your plant is jumping back and looking healthy again, yeah throw some more pics up keep us updated
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:21 AM
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Update..

Watered awhile ago, got both babies in 1 shot so u can see the outgrowth (smaller one got her roots raped on initial re-pot from some mystery soil to crap soil (MG organics mix). Is it still too soon to start LST on the bigger one? I'd like the lil one to get abit more growth b4 12/12.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:57 AM
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well their looking 100% better today bro nice save
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:51 PM
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Yeah! congrats in a proper diagnosis and speedy recovery! Good luck with the rest!
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:29 PM
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yeah lookin a lot better
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No pics today, probably wont water till the weekend. Had a few questions though so here goes...

1. Can you guys(gals?) tell from the pics if its too soon to start LST on the bigger baby?

2 Edited out, found answer

3. I've got some Big Buddha Blue Cheese and G13 Power Skunk ordered from attitude along with FF ocean blend and want to get them going asap so, being that I only have the 1 grow box atm, should i start them on 12/12 that way I can have say 1 of each in with the 2 bagseeds all flowering at same time or would it be wiser to veg them which means veggin the bagseed ones longer?

4. Am I correct to assume having my carbon exahust on when the lights are on during veggin is over kill due to the lack of oder from the plants? I mean they dont stick at all yet so why bother with the carbon filter/exahust being on same timer as the lights?

5. Where can I find detailed info on topping? I've been searchin the forums via search funtion but no thread seems to be dedicated to that method like the LST, Scrog threads I've come across.

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Old 10-22-2008, 07:42 AM
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bah heres some pics anyhoot, shed light!

Some leave sets have 5 leafs while others have 3, which ones are fan leaves? and which ones do farmers usually clip/trim?
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