1st grow 30 days in...CFL

**itsgrowinglikeaweed** · 05-12-2008, 12:11 PM

Ok I ve really enjoyed this site and have learned a TON from you all. Thank you very much!!
I'm almost a month in my 1st grow. In the closet with CFLs I have 10 little bundles of joy. I'm sry no pics yet ( not that computer friendly yet). But I must say according to all the pictures I've seen and posts I've read I think my plants are doing REALLY good! They are only about 4-5 inches tall but they are all about 9-10 inches wide! (looking down on them) They are working on their 5th pair of leaves so there is only about a half an inch between branch sites. I have no idea what strain I have but the little bugers are sure to be bushy as hell!! I've got 2 rows of 5 plants with 2 4ft tubes RIGHT ontop of each row. I want to start givin them some nutes but I'm a little scared because they look like they are so happy already. I'm a very strong believer in "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Anyway I've never seen plants this short with so many leaves and branches coming out so close together. Can anyone comment on this without seeing some pics??

**inbudwetrust** · 05-12-2008, 12:15 PM

well I have found that the really bushy plants are sometimes males. Where did you get your seeds? Or clones? you could probably add some nutes start off my using half doses until you get it down. good luck dude

**itsgrowinglikeaweed** · 05-12-2008, 12:28 PM

5 seeds from really good bag weed, and 5 are from a friend who only gets the best stuff he can find. All 10 seeds sprouted all 10 growing the same rate. But all 10 look the same to me. I know which are which but they do all look the same. Geez if all 10 turn out to be males I'm gonna freak out!!

**inbudwetrust** · 05-12-2008, 12:34 PM

well they might be hermies, most likely if you have a hermie seed it will be a hermie plant. Odds are 3 or 4 should be keepers, even if they are hermie, you wont know until the end. Its good to practice though, my first really good harvest didnt come until my third grow. You have to just learn. I decided to sack up and buy some good seeds from Amsterdam, this way you know you have a girl. It sucks putting tons of time and love into plants that you have to kill, espcially with CFLS because the grow rate is so much slower. You could clone them all and flower the clones. flower one to see what it is.

**itsgrowinglikeaweed** · 05-12-2008, 12:47 PM

Yeh I'm definately going to buy good seeds next time and probably upgrade the lights too, but I wanted some "practice" before I started throwing to much money into my closet. As it is all I have invested is time. Thank you for your comments!
I'll have to read up on these hermies as I am not familiar.

**MrFishy** · 05-12-2008, 12:51 PM

Nowadays, any pot with seeds in it will almost certainly show hermie tendencies. This is because no grower would include seeds unless it was futile to remove them. That would cut into his/her bottom line. Grower wouldn't care if seeds were hermie, cuz' hermies generally beget hermies and are thus, little threat to biz.
So, unless you find maybe one single seed in some superior bud, you could be risking a wasted effort. I say "one seed" because the grower might be creating seed on purpose, and may have missed the one you found? This could be a bonus find.
Of course, this "one" seed may turn out to be hermie, too?
Know your source or risk your labor.

**smokdoughgetdough** · 05-12-2008, 12:52 PM

chek this... all my plants r bushy but i have 8 cfls at the bottom n a 400 w hps at the top in my grow tent, i cant tell the sex yet but theyre lookn lik males does trichromes on the leaves mean ne thing, theyre still in veg stage

**itsgrowinglikeaweed** · 05-12-2008, 01:40 PM

Well... after some research it would seem likely that i am growing hermies.

Maybe i should buy some seed now and start over. That way i can reuse my soil before the hermies suck all the soil nutes out. Or shud i just grow em out?? If they are hermies will i get anything smokable out of them?

**inbudwetrust** · 05-12-2008, 02:10 PM

yeah the weed willl still be pretty good, definity get you stoned. I had a batch of hermies once, grew themout and made some really good hash.

**daisy2687** · 05-12-2008, 04:42 PM

Bushy plants tending to be males is false.

If anything it would be the other way around. All professional publications state that it is never very reliable to tell sex by plant characteristics but if you want to try, males usually grow taller and lankier as to grow above the females so they can pollinate easier. Femes also grow larger diameter stalks. Keep in mind though you could have a super bushy male and a lanky female, never know.

As for seeds from bags usually being hermie this is somewhat true and false. A seed could pop up from 1 grain of pollen from a male plant getting on a female. This happens more than you think. Even if there is a seed in the bud because the plant was a hermie and self polinated it doesnt mean the seed is going to grow a hermie. Feminized seeds bought from banks come from hermie plants and usually show around 30% herms.

Dont throw away your plants! Clone them and sex the clones when its possible so you know what you got and what to focus your energy on. Even if they are hermies you can carefully watch the plants and cut off all the ball sacks so the plant doesnt self-polinate. This will still get you high quality seedless bud.