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    Red face 1st CFL Grow - White Widow

    Hey guys!
    First of all nice forum you've got here! I am very much interested on your feedback on both the plant and the grow box. The plant is actually 2 months old, but I started counting when I placed it in the grow box as it was very small back then. I don't balance pH, don't give it any nutrients, just the water and nothing else... Since this is my first grow I obviously have tons of questions.

    Grow Box:

    Dimensions: 45cm x 45cm x 80cm / 17.7in x 17.7in x 31.5in
    Lights for Vegging: x2 30W 6400K 1850 Lumen
    Lights for Flowering: x3 23W 2700K 1500 Lumen
    Fans: 1 Intake and 1 outtake with light traps

    Plant:


    Age: ~1 month
    Height: 12cm / 4.7in
    Light Schedule: 16/8 - 18/6 and sometimes 24/7
    Nutrients: None

    Lights
    From what I've read I should at least give the plants twice as much of light, but is it really necessary? The plant looks pretty happy so is there really any need for more light (I do realize that it would grow faster)? I am planning to use x3 23W 2700K 1500 Lumen bulbs, is it going to be enough ?

    Flowering
    Another subject that interests me is when should I force the plant into flowering and how big is it gonna get? I've read somewhere that sativas/indicas (can't remember which) slows down their growth once entered the flowering stage, is this going to happen to me?
    How exactly should I force it into flowering? 2700K bulbs and 12/12 with complete darkness?

    Clones
    When should I make clones in my case?

    Yeld
    What are we expecting here taking the dimensions of the grow box under consideration?

    I highly appreciate your criticism, suggestions and comments. I'll post more pictures later.
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    Lights: I have found that the more light I am able to utilize during a grow directly increases the density of the flowers on the plant.

    Flowering: My plants usually double in height after flowering is induced. That being said sometimes they don't get that big and occasionally the get bigger. Indica leaves are fat and sativa leaves are longer and thinner.

    Clones: I cut my clones from the lower branches that you would normally lollipop off in an indoor grow. I cut clones before flowering is induced but I have seen people do it after.

    Yield: I average about an ounce to an ounce and a half per plant under a 250 watt hps. Production can be further increased by manipulating the amount of flower sites through topping, fimming, etc. And of course, by adding more light.

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    Your box is about the same size as one of my older rotating or flip-flop twin bloom chamber perpetual harvest micro stealth system I used years ago. If you're gonna' stay with the CFLs, go all out with some 55w (200w equivalent) high lumen output bulbs. In earlier seedling and veg stages the amount of light is not as important. But when you switch to 12/12 to begin blooming, much more light is needed to get professional results that won't disapoint. I'm still partial to my old 150w HPS lights for that type of set up. I used 2x 150 bulbs in a 17" sq box for blindingly bright lumen output. Two Hindu Kush plants would pump out about a QP (4 oz.) every month is that tiny space. My units were about 6ft tall though, and I'd induce 12/12 when they were about 18+" tall, or 2 mos. from taking clones (including 2 weeks to root). The taller the plants are, the proportionately bigger the yield. I didn't top the Kush at all and relied on mostly the two monster top colas developing a consistently potent harvest overall. Granted the 150's generate more heat that can pose a problem. But in a small box you want a good rate of air exchange (via a 12v PC fan) when the plant get bigger anyway. In the end the whole idea is to replicate super bright sunlight outdoors over the course of an ideal So. Cal. summer season- all year long.

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    A little trick I use to increase yield requires a little more effort and attention but is worth it when usable space is limited. I transition from 18/6 to 12/12 over a two week period that more closely replicates the natural seasonal shortening of daylight outdoors. Switching to 16/8 for a week, then 14/10 for another week. Then 12/12 at the end of the second week. This way the plant more gradually enters the blooming stage. The end result is buds are far longer and thicker overall than going abruptly with 12/12. And this is why outdoor plants invariably develop longer and phatter top colas and overall yields outdoors relative to plant size.

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    The first thing I can say is get more light. Add the beg bulbs to the flower if you have to. Also, if your soil isn't really potent, get some nutes. Miracle grow if you have to! Take clones before flowering. Allow the plant to get over that shock.

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