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    Quote Originally Posted by colocowboy View Post
    Like so much it is strain dependent to some degree. It seems that warm temp stretch generally occurs during warm darkness. That has to be qualified with what kind of temps your talking about. These things aren't often that hard and fast, the rule of thumb is 78 f +/- 20-25 deg f tolerance. The plant seems to be most happy near the 78 f and the farther deviated day/night equates to mild environmental stress irrespective of day/night orientation. I assume your running lights at night for the cooler ambient?! Works fine, no problem!
    **my 2 cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureaFinest View Post
    that's badass ones already cracking!!! The grow emergency kit, that was CLASSIC lol. I too would like to kno if dark temps being higher has an effect on em as I'm having the same deal.
    3 of 4 are now sinkers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by colocowboy View Post
    Like so much it is strain dependent to some degree. It seems that warm temp stretch generally occurs during warm darkness. That has to be qualified with what kind of temps your talking about. These things aren't often that hard and fast, the rule of thumb is 78 f +/- 20-25 deg f tolerance. The plant seems to be most happy near the 78 f and the farther deviated day/night equates to mild environmental stress irrespective of day/night orientation. I assume your running lights at night for the cooler ambient?! Works fine, no problem!
    **my 2 cents
    It must just be the temps then, I am asking on behalf of Irish. he said his lights out temps are higher than his lights on. I thought maybe this would make them not flower at all. but it must just be his 100F+!!
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    But cowboy, Cervantes says ahahahaha,,,,,kidding ; !)

    I have always heard and sounds good to me is a 15f degree drop in temps during lights out is ideal. I have to run my dehumidifier at night too during lights out these days and it keeps the flower room hotter than I would like. That shoudn't last too much longer though.

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    Oh yea, I would definitely try to keep them +/- 15f
    Just because they tolerate it and don't die doesn't mean they don't stress especially when those temps are sustained. Depending on the humidity in the ambient air he could throw an evaporative cooler in and drop it maybe 10-15 degrees and raise the humidity some as this increases heat tolerance also. Silicate supplement helps with heat tolerance also if he isn't already using something like that.
    ** also more air, can't have too much air below and above the canopy for natural transpiration. I don't know if you have ever seen this but the leaves will actually sweat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlanders cave View Post
    But cowboy, Cervantes says ahahahaha,,,,,kidding ; !)

    I have always heard and sounds good to me is a 15f degree drop in temps during lights out is ideal. I have to run my dehumidifier at night too during lights out these days and it keeps the flower room hotter than I would like. That shoudn't last too much longer though.
    I shut my dehumidifier down a week or so ago. it's about 65% right now... that's low enough for me, it will drop very soon with the nights getting cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by colocowboy View Post
    Oh yea, I would definitely try to keep them +/- 15f
    Just because they tolerate it and don't die doesn't mean they don't stress especially when those temps are sustained. Depending on the humidity in the ambient air he could throw an evaporative cooler in and drop it maybe 10-15 degrees and raise the humidity some as this increases heat tolerance also. Silicate supplement helps with heat tolerance also if he isn't already using something like that.
    ** also more air, can't have too much air below and above the canopy for natural transpiration. I don't know if you have ever seen this but the leaves will actually sweat.
    Yea, I have seen them sweat already. when a leaf is on top of another and you move it, there is a wet spot on the bottom leaf. I know Irish is using the silicate, he said it has been working great!!! he also said he noticed some hair today, so maybe they are kicking into flower.

    my plants on the other hand are sitting at a nice cool 77F with the lights on!!!
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    yup uses silica, seaweed, yucca air pots you name it.lol. even use the swamp cooler but did not help much. here is a post i did and thats why SL is asking.


    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Boy View Post
    So i have been thinking about some stuff i would really like to get everyone's opinions on?

    so its been a few times the heat has messed with my girls and made then not flower. i was thinking maybe it could be this? my lights are off during the day time and on at night when its cooler of course.. well i was starting to think maybe that is whats causing the issues with delay on flowering? ive always read the dark time temps needs to be 10-15F less then lights on, and with having my lights off during the hottest part of the day is doing the oppsit. my lights off is hotter then my lights on. so i am wondering if i start running my lights on during the day and having the dark time during the night would fix the flower issue since the temps would be able to drop more with lights off? i understand its going to be allot hotter now during the day but so far ive been able to keep the girls healthy and think i might be able to get threw that?

    do our plants really need -10F or so cooler at their dark time?

    i would love to here everyone's opinion on this please? am i on to something?

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    Really it seems like your compensating in the right ways, I think that the swamp would be best for raising the humidity but I know they are limited in their cooling capacity. Ex-plumber
    If your in the desert and your humidity is 20-35% you have plenty of room for it, in the tropical areas it is indigenous to you figure the temps are high too but there is often a compensating high relative humidity. Hot and wet! Some strains like hot and dry, and that might be a HUGE consideration for summer time! That is where origin can play a role.

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    I haven't had my panels replaced yet but the one that was broken was able to be temporarily fixed. all the fan mounts are busted in half, but i snapped it back into place and it only falls out of place when it is tilted. also there was a loose connection on a connector that may have vibrated out of place during shipment. so with the help of a couple very kind GLH specialists, I now have another 100W to shine down on my girls!!!! shouldn't be long till i have the new ones!! I can't believe i didn't do this before!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyluv View Post
    i haven't had my panels replaced yet but the one that was broken was able to be temporarily fixed. All the fan mounts are busted in half, but i snapped it back into place and it only falls out of place when it is tilted. Also there was a loose connection on a connector that may have vibrated out of place during shipment. So with the help of a couple very kind glh specialists, i now have another 100w to shine down on my girls!!!! Shouldn't be long till i have the new ones!! I can't believe i didn't do this before!!!

    sweeeeetttt!!!!!

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    looks great bro, glad you got the extra light working..

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