My Grows just ain't working... in the
Medical Marijuana Patients forums; Originally Posted by Pharoah
And there you have it folks... the REAL motivation behind people growing for you... to earn ...
The fact that you can't find one indicates your expectations are not realistic. Per gram pricing is an established price system. Dope has value. You dont know how to grow you dont get to dictate prices to people that do.
Originally Posted by Pharoah
Well, when you add up nutes, medium, pots, genetics, time, and having to hold someone's hand the whole grow. $5 a gram isn't unreasonable. I mean, what are you offering in exchange? Helping with the bills isn't feasible if you can't even cover rent and bud. I hope you find someone to help you, sorry to see you go.
Originally Posted by Pharoah
Originally Posted by bartow
If your still interested in growing I am willing and able to assist you with your efforts, that said I no longer have room to provide for another patient so you will have to grow at your home or an alternate location.
I am really sorry to hear that you have had as much issues as you have producing or finding a producer of your medication, $5.00 a gram is actually quite reasonable for medicine that works for you but 18g/day of use is quite alot of herb to use daily, I can see why your having issues finding a caregiver.
If it's the clones or seeds that are eating up your money, I can offer up clones to you for free to get you back started (No delivery )?
Leaving the site should not be an option, even if you can find a caregiver there's lots of information here that can help you start again. Take on 1 plant and grow it out and slowly add more as you gain confidence, no one has to know if security is your worry.
I AM CANADIAN
Pharoah, this isn't egypt you dont get slaves to work and give you free hemp. Guys, he went to those Canadian doctors where you pay $400 and they give you between 10-25grams a day. They just write down that amount. Nobody gets less. Pharoh doesnt currently use 18grams a day. If he did he could afford it already. And he would be paying $10 a gram like everyone else does. He paid the doctor, got a big amount. That means he can legally have access to that mount. Just like I have legal access to a ferrari. Doesnt mean I can afford it. Doesnt mean the world has to give it to me now.
FYI, I dont have anything against going to a doctor, paying and getting a big limit. I have a problem with someone doing this, just so they can get someone else to grow and do all the work so they can sell it to some dispensary and bullshit and take credit for the growers work. 18 grams a day my ass. If you can't afford $5/gram you can't afford to setup a grow for indoors with 90 plants. Its expensive eitherway. I think those offers you got for $5 a gram if your legit you should take them. You dont have to buy 18 grams a day. Because you dont now anyways.
Originally Posted by maximum
Woah there fella... get a grip... I've stated SEVERAL times that I would be WILLING to pay IF the DG was to destroy everything in addition to MY supply.
I also stated that IF this does NOT happen, I REFUSE to pay for any of it, as I KNOW their selling cannabis grown for ME, using MY plant count, either to the underground, or to CC's.
Never once have I EVER said I WAS going to sell ANYTHING to ANYONE...
I currently do NOT use 18/day, and as a result, because I use it as preventative, I get to enjoy the crippling pain that shoots from my hand right up my arm, and down my back, because I cannot afford street prices.
I am in NO way asking for "Free" weed, I'm simply stating, if someone is going to grow mine, take extra, and sell it off, than they should NOT be charging me a cent, as they would be piggybacking my plant count to make a buck...
How this cannot be understood is beyond me, most likely is a result of people reading a fraction of what people say, then hitting that "reply" button before actually comprehending it...
In addition to my usage, I requested that based on my own personal usage both before, and after my accident. Don't tell me I don't use 18/day, or that the limit is bullshit, I've been using cannabis for approximately 20 years, at some points, quite heavy, my tolerance is very high to cannabis. And besides the point, it was based on a number of factors. IE tolerance, current street grade quality, it was considered how much I would use on a BAD day... and that's the number we worked with...
In other words, some days, I do not need 18, and some days, I've used 20... Nobody "needs" a specific amount per day... it varies depending on a huge number of factors, such as stress etc.
Last edited by Pharoah; 06-13-2012 at 03:40 PM.
If you can assume the DG is illegally selling off "your" plant then I can assume your selling off your 18grams. Market rate is $10/gram. Smoking for 20 years you should know that $5gram is a great deal. Everyone told you $5 is a great deal. Im telling you its a great deal. People even offered to help you grow. Do you know how much it will cost an indoor grower to grow out 90 plants? If its the same setup as mine it would cost me $10k +. Its an entire fucken room!! So work that into your costs.
Dont assume your dg is going to take extra and sell it off. You just assume thats whats happening. Thats what bothers me. It shows how you think. Where did you get 18 grams a day from? Your doctor wrote that on your paper. You didnt go in telling your doctor that you currently use or need 18 grams. If you know you need 18grams from experience that means you could afford to buy it for market price. Also,like a grower needs to prove anything to you. They dont even need to show the government how much is being produced. You coming in policing a grower is a bad idea. You need 18 grams a day , then the grower will send you 18 grams a day for a price you agreed on. Yea a grower is going to keep extensive logs for you on how much was harvested and how much wasn't harvested. All that work and you think $5/gram is too much. When you pay $10/gram like you are now, nobody is giving you logs. So more work, more money.
Goodluck finding someone to agree with your terms. If you say you need it I believe you need it. Just being off other hardcore pharma drugs is a great enough reason to say you need it. I agree.It doesnt mean that every DG is doing something illegal. It means you want something that is unreasonable. Dont go calling those people that reject you criminals.
In Canada you have a shortage of DG's. Meaning your lucky the kind people that responded to you for $5/gram didnt try to fuck you and say $10-$20. Because laws of supply and demand would dictate that the prices are going to go up not down in a market where there is a shortage of dg and no shortage of patients. So dont be calling those people greedy.
Last edited by maximum; 06-13-2012 at 04:04 PM.
Again, not reading anything actually there... and hitting that reply button before comprehending what was said, anyway... I'm sick of trying to do the right thing and getting flack for it, peace out...
So again your talking about what your doing and projecting it to others. I replied to your points. You ignored four paragraphs I just typed. Just like you want to sell your shit off and say its the DG doing it. There is a market rate for dope. Pay it. Like everyone else does. Man someone even offered to help you fucken grow it. hahaha you got it easy man. Nobody fucken helped me.
Originally Posted by Pharoah
How about this. You want 90 plants grown. Ill grow your 90. You dont want excess sold off to anyone other than you. So I wont. Ill prove it with papers, pictures videos. But you prove to me that your consuming all 18grams a day. Just like you want the DG to prove he isnt selling off something you feel is yours, you have to prove your not selling it off neither. How is that for fair. But dont leave me with all this dope sitting here. You can buy it. For $5/gram. If you cant afford 90 plants to be grown out, Ill grow out enough plants for you to afford. But like I said, you dont want it sold off on the black market so you better fucken buy it I dont want to work my ass off growing YOUR shit and then YOU dont buy it. And if you still can't afford it, tell your doctor to lower your limit to something thats realistic for you.
Last edited by maximum; 06-13-2012 at 04:54 PM.
there are pigs in this thread.
I dont get a pig vibe from pharoa. Just a guy asking for handouts or a guy scamming growers. Not sure yet which one.