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Reply With QuoteThat would be great, but I have not heard of anything such as this.
I just heard as of 2013 or something they are changing the laws regarding Medical MJ?
My buddy told me that he heard all medical marijuana laws are changing as of 2013 and all dispensaries are going to be shut down by 2014. They will still be keeping the laws regarding owning medical cannabis, but you wont be able to buy it? Basically he said that they were going to close the clubs, but still allow patients to receive medical marijuana through caregivers or you will have to grow it yourself? I am sure he is probably confused, or he may of just heard something about a bill that was trying to be passed, and he may have thought it was already being made law.
He thought maybe they were doing this because it would be the first step towards legalization of Cannabis?
If anyone has heard anything about this please let me know.
That would be great, but I have not heard of anything such as this.
I'm unaware of anything like this happening. It contradicts all current state laws, so it would be major legislation. They would have to completely wipe out SB420, possible even prop 215, and reverse every single judicial decision ever made regarding medical marijuana. Seems like that would be front page news.Originally Posted by beginner.legal.growop
My buddy told me that he heard all medical marijuana laws are changing as of 2013 and all dispensaries are going to be shut down by 2014. They will still be keeping the laws regarding owning medical cannabis, but you wont be able to buy it? Basically he said that they were going to close the clubs, but still allow patients to receive medical marijuana through caregivers or you will have to grow it yourself? I am sure he is probably confused, or he may of just heard something about a bill that was trying to be passed, and he may have thought it was already being made law.
He thought maybe they were doing this because it would be the first step towards legalization of Cannabis?
If anyone has heard anything about this please let me know.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence." - Charles Bukowski
hmmmm, well I guess he was wrong.
Sounds like it. I don't think it's possible for the state government to get rid of the collective system in favor of a caregiver system. Prop 215 specifically uses the word collective, so collectives are protected under our state constitution. Voter initiatives in Cali are a form of direct democracy, which supersede decisions by elected state officials. It would require another ballot initiative to get rid of collectives. The only thing that supersedes a voter approved ballot initiative is federal law. But our state legislature is incapable of overruling prop 215 regardless of federal law.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence." - Charles Bukowski
The federal government could stop it at anytime they wanted. All they would have to do is stop funding those states with federal money. But yeah I guess he was wrong.
Well no it's not as simple as that. Federal program funding of State programs usually has criteria related to the programs they are funding so stopping highway funds for example would not be legal etc.... Any Federal punitive action to the States would have a much higher bar and there would be immediate challenges by the States.
As things stand, clubs are fucked. Just like Vegas was ran by cowboys in the 70's and were kicked out.
Any one that tells you its not happening does not have a car or has no way of actually checking that clubs are closing down.
http://hopenetcompassion.org/home/ SF Bay
http://www.lakeconews.com/index.php?...est&Itemid=197 Lake county
What you will have is thousands of micro grows in every yard. And I think this is great but people that cant grow will need safe access.
I dont want to google this crap but safe access to meds are in question, so http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/..._lied_to_c.php
And plus you cant trust any one to support OUR LAWS that we sood in the rain for DECADES to get passed http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/..._lied_to_c.php
Im voting this year! You bet! Im voting for my dog, one more vote snatched from democrats because they are not Democrats!
But no one will bother you for a few plants in your back yard but thats not what 215 was about, were supposed to band together collectively and funny enough thats actually what communism is when we become a corporative.
TIME FOR MOTHER FUCKING CHANGE,
Last edited by itsaplant; 06-09-2012 at 05:03 PM.
I hope it happens.. Fuck stores and their 18 dollar grams on "Fire" lol!
Well the federal government can indeed arrest anyone at any time, ignoring state law. But neither the executive nor legislative branch can directly wipe out a state law, even through putting pressure on the state by cutting off funding. The only way they could get rid of the state law is to have the AG sue the state, and then make their case in the courts.
The reason this hasn't been done yet is because it would likely end up a supreme court case where the federal government would lose. The federal policy on medical marijuana is obviously absurd, inconsistent, and would be interpreted as violating not only states rights, but citizens rights. Bringing medical marijuana to the federal justice system would likely over rule the federal government policy on mmj all together.
Right now we possibly have the worst supreme court of all time. But one thing they would agree on is states rights when it comes to granting individual liberty. The liberal wing would support personal liberty when it comes to medical marijuana, and the conservative wing of the supreme court are essentially libertarians who would vote in favor of states rights. Both sides would agree and that would wipe out out federal policy. Probably wouldn't even be a close vote.
So yeah, the federal government can't really do anything in terms of reversing mmj law when it was approved by ballot decision. That's why they are just pretending there is no such thing as medical marijuana and busting people themselves. In federal marijuana trials the words "medical marijuana" can not be mentioned, so the feds are not running the risk of having the cases elevated to the supreme court.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence." - Charles Bukowski
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