Warning to Santa Cruz County Patients....Granny Purps = moldy, mite infested clones.

What "proffessional large scale grower" would sell his clone stock for 6 bucks a cut? I believe many growers are selling "time bombs" to keep too many people from growing their own. Hell, it's a good idea if you have no morals. Flood the area with crap genetics and dissuade people from growing their own. That keeps prices up.

I think you did right. Now go find a better place for clones. Mine come from Oaksterdam.
Sounds like you need to cleanup the bad stores down there!

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I'll probably just get flamed or ignored for the lengthy and honestly negative post, but I wanted to be detailed and felt that I should share my experience for the health and safety of others. If in fact GP is knowingly selling moldy product while touting their stringent testing procedures and ensuring a clean product....well that's just skuzzy and I'm calling shenanigans.

I call shenanigans on many different dispensaries in this area man.

Really sorry to hear about your bad clones you bought. I have picked up clones from three different south bay dispensaries. Three times I have had issues with the clones near immediately. Two places gave me infected clones with spidermites that I was lucky enough to have a friend see and kill. The last place gave me Chocolope when I asked for a short squat Indica dom. plant.

I don't trust dispensaries that sell patient donated clones. Not anymore at least.

dispensary gypsies.. WTF!!

It's common knowledge that you don't place new clones in your nursery that you quarantine then first.
Perhaps a picture of this moldy bud??

you bought clones from a dispensary most of them get there clones from vendors. they were not what you expected and had problems what else do you expect. i went to that place one time was not to impressed by the selection of meds. left without purchasing a thing. i have a personal policy of never buying clones from places whose flower shelves are filled with crap tells me they either low ball so good growers avoid or they grow themselves and the prices should be MUCH lower

Originally Posted by dmbdutch

Now before I begin I would like to state that I am not simply posting this to flame the dispensary, I am posting this because the information herein is of great concern to area patients with compromised immune systems.

The visit itself went well, the staff is friendly, though not very unprofessional and visibly wickedly stoned (I for one don't mind that, I think the lab coats and over lit white/sterile decor alot of clubs rock is pretty corny). I visited six weeks ago and purchased 25 Afghan Kush clones, 2 prerolls (a cheapo, and a top shelf) and a gram of OG Kush 'full melt'. I would have only bought the clones but the weekly sale gave me a few extra bucks to spread around. One of the pre rolls, the top shelf, Purple Urkle, was decent, however not top shelf. The other pre roll, a sativa of some sort, was just useless. The OG Kush full melt wasn't full melt and tasted like absolute garbage; I'm guessing it was the product of a badly screwed up grow that couldn't be sold as buds. You know what though, all that is nothing; it poses no danger to anything besides a few wallets, and that's free enterprise so power to them for staying open with that junk.

You sure you're talking about granny purps and not Santa Cruz Patient's Center? Granny purps doesn't wear lab coats, SCPC does. Also SCPC frequently sells moldy buds and tells their customers PM is actually just crystals. SCPC is just about the most scandalous club that's ever existed anywhere. Granny Purps generally has pretty good shit.

My problem comes with their clone stock. They assured me that the stock was disease and pest free (my examination bearing this out) and all came from a single, very professional and large scale gardener.

Again, granny purps gets their clones from several different sources, SCPC's clones/bud for the most part comes from the owner who's from Oakland and runs several massive warehouse grows there. I think you've got your clubs mixed up. Was this on 41st ave or by Costco?

My specific strain of choice was Afghan Kush. My research has indicated it is a notably short indica with very tight internodes by nature, almost no stretch in flowering, a moderate to heavy yield, heavy and early resin production, a tolerance for moderate to insane nutrient levels, and a resistance to pests and molds that rivals no other. Whatever I've got on my hands it isn't that. It stretched to obsurd levels LATE in flower (like 3 weeks the stretch STARTS), fries with any solution level over 900ppm, and even has leaves indicative of a sativa-heavy hybrid. So they fucked up the strain. I'm still NOT furious. It kind of sucks because I bought a good few, but hey it IS at least a marijuana plant. What's not cool is the disease free gaurantee.

If you get your genetics from dispensaries, this is going to happen to you every once in a while. They rely on their vendors to keep their genetics strait, doesn't always work out that way. It's easy to get clones mixed up.

Now, when I was there the esteemed Granny herself spent a few minutes explaining their wonderful 3 day return policy on clones; I left the club confident in my little gals, especially considering the careful examination I regularly do with new clones. I bring them home, dunk them all in a 3ml/gal solution of bifenezate and neem, water them and give 'em a good rest before transplantation. Their immediate stress response to transplantation was unbelievable, they almost fell over. The same method used on two crops purchased at Harborside San Jose resulted in no stress and a return to vigorous veg growth in three days

Different strains respond differently to different treatments. When I get clones the first thing I do is dip them in azatrol. Works great on everything except Jack Herer which it murders. Dr Doolittle's works on most cuttings but if you spray it on blue dream it completely fucks them up. Not sure why stuff like this happens, but it does.

This worried me. Low and behold, 3 and ONE FREAKING HALF days after I've bought them, I notice a batch of white spots I had to have missed for at least a day and a half hiding deep in the back. Unmistakable Powdery Mildew.

Dipping should annihilate PM. Do you live by Oak trees? Oaks carry PM. Could have gotten them after your dip that way.

Those of you unfamiliar with this irksome little shithead of a fungus may not know that the white spots on the surface of some of the more tender leaves is the final stage of the fungus's growth; it's flowering period so to say. It only occurs AT LEAST seven days after the plant has succumbed to the systematic infection.

No. Not systemic. And how fast it spreads depends on your environmental conditions. Low light + high humidity + low air flow = faster spreading, harder to get rid of.

This isn't a huge problem for me; it's a set back, but my immune system is fine so I can at least smoke the shit. But what if it wasn't? Even with heavy applications of serenade and regular sulphur burns (something I didn't do lightly with two flowering crops already occupying my single room perpetual op) throughout my garden the PM still took hold; only one crop made it out unscathed and it was only around for a week before harvest.

Sounds like you've got a problem in your system. PM shouldn't be a death blow to your crop if you treat it right. At a certain point, you can't blame the clones anymore. If you let pm dominate your crop, that shit is on you.

I'll probably just get flamed or ignored for the lengthy and honestly negative post, but I wanted to be detailed and felt that I should share my experience for the health and safety of others. If in fact GP is knowingly selling moldy product while touting their stringent testing procedures and ensuring a clean product....well that's just skuzzy and I'm calling shenanigans.

They are also the most legitimate club in the county. If you think GP is bad, check out the other clubs. GP is one of the better places I've been to.

I should also mention there was probably a spider mite egg hiding somewhere in there because a few weeks later I noticed the little bastards all over backside of the kush crop.

Also, spidermites do exist in nature as well. Go ask any of the farmers in Watsonville. They are constantly fighting them off.

The whole room was ravaged by PM at that point so I just let them eat away, spraying bifenezate and manually squishing the mofo's whenever I can but I wasn't going to invest anything in it.

I'd advise you to rotate sprays. If one treatment is becoming ineffective, move to a different one. I'd recommend Azatrol/azamax. Also some other oil based sprays with rosemary and clove oils are highly effective.

Sounds like the real problem here is ineffective treatments.

Originally Posted by dirtsurfr

I think you did right. Now go find a better place for clones. Mine come from Oaksterdam.
Sounds like you need to cleanup the bad stores down there!

Surprisingly Oaksterdam has some pretty bad ass genetics. They have their share of bullshit genetics too, but also a lot of good stuff. Wish they still had cotton candy...