Bug Problem Newbie Grower (Possibly Thrips?)

Start with a neem oil hose down. Or Azamax.

looks like spider mites , i have just had a thrip on one of my plants, it tore holes all over it,

Those are definitely thrips bro. Out of the multitude of bugs I've encountered throughout this (my first) year of growing, these are the only one that still plague me. I've been using neem with pyrethrins once a week until they seem to disappear, and mosquito dunks in the soil, but they just keep coming back! I've done a little research and found a product called spinosad which works wonders against thrips, I just haven't ordered any more yet. ;p It blows my mind to look at the damage they're doing to my crops indoors while my friend down the street's outdoor plants are nearly flawless... And he doesn't use ANY pesticides! I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but can any of you veterans explain that one to me? Also, any additional advice on how to permanently wipe these resilient little buggers out would help us both.

get azamax if you can afford, it looks like thrips to me I am infested with them. can't afford azamax till payday.