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Advanced Marijuana Cultivation forums; Let's say I have $2,000 to spend on the best genetics I can buy ... stable genetics. IBL's BX's ...... ...
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What strains would you pick to start a breeding program?
Let's say I have $2,000 to spend on the best genetics I can buy ... stable genetics. IBL's BX's ...... What strains would you purchase as a package and use to create your own line of seeds? Name a few strains and breeders and maybe why you would follow that line ... what your goal would be. But you can't spend more than $2,000.
This might take a little research ... maybe too much for a stoner. lol But maybe some of you pro's already have some answers and already know the prices of some of these ... 10 packs etc. I don't want to start with less than 10 of one strain while searching for my babies. And I want all the ones that pop ... preferably all of them to be somewhat uniform in what they were bred true for.
I myself would select for Indica lines and probably a good amount of Skunk.
But what would you do with $2,000 and a plan to start your own seed line ... maybe you already have.
I love seeds.
tbh if i had 2 grand i would be stoned for 3 months untill my plants are done, then id be stoned for another 3 months. then id have to go back to work.
I myself already have a few in mind (some are in route, some to be ordered soon, some i already have) for both all indica and all sativa. I also have a few that i want to create a new hybrid with. It does take a lot of searching you're right. I want mine to have nothing in common as far as lineage goes. Been studying and searching for about a year now and i'm about to start breeding in the next few months.
I'd grab myself a few stable landraces from one of those real good old school breeders... sensi, mr. nice etc. as well as bout 10 packs of jack herer hehe. then grab ppolyhybrids from new up n comers such as rare dankness, tga, gage green, etc, to spice of the gene pool n give greater possibility for unique parental stock. then grow it all mix n match n see what happens
Not enough seed breeders already in the world? I get a kick out of folks that figure this is an easy... or even relatively easy way to make money. The fact is most folks have no clue as to whats involved in a successful breeding program. "Most" folks have no clue just how much effort and time is needed to back cross to create a stable and useful genetic.
For example this "then grow it all mix n match n see what happens" is NOT good science! If you want to waste time AND money... by all means follow this kind of thinking... you will surely end up with mostly CRAP that you wouldn't want to duplicate for any reason. I say "mostly" because you just might wind up with a winner... BUT the willy nilly aproach will ensure that you simply can NOT duplicate the positive results.
If you do enter into your own breeding program I wish you luck and success, do a TON of research on proper procedures for creating a stable strain. Keep the science pure and accurate or you will have thrown away your initial investment.
Originally Posted by Mr. Diamond
If it were me,
i would go to highgrade and grab a 15 pack of NL #5 for 50 bucks ( very stable indoor strain )
go to sensi and grab some reg hashplant (very expensive for seeds) 10 pack i believe is like 200+
you could also grab skunk there too
then go to DNA genetics and get some Kosher Kush....SUUUUUPer aromatic flowers and a wonderful kushy taste...they only have em femmed, so grab a few packs.. 6 seeds are like 100 bucks i think.
after that get a soma A+ for a high contribution of CBD in breeding programs resulting in some stony bud.
you could also get some Hindu Kush from sensi too as they are very stable seeds...
Originally Posted by Mr. Diamond
Two schools of thought here, first one is to get landrace strains and cross those sativa to indica which is what people did in the 70's. second school is to start with hybrids and further breed out bad traits and breed in good traits. By the 80's when I started growing thats what you were told to do: just pick an Indica dominant pheno and sativa dominant pheno from a bunch of seeds from the same plant and cross them. I used to get fully seeded outdoor buds from Humboldt and Mendocino all the time. Some of the best nuggets I've ever grown came from those bag seeds. I think for $2000 I'd find as many land race strains both Indicas and Sativas that I could and buy two packs of each. Then I would choose my crosses wisely.
Last edited by echlectica; 11-12-2012 at 03:42 AM.
75% ace panama (for the red hairs & strawberry flavor) x buddha's sister (for the cherry flavor to make a cherry haze)
ace old timer's haze x DJ shorts' grape krush for a grape flavored purple haze
ace or holy smokes' malawi gold crossed with several lemony strains like jack's cleaner 2 & DNA lemon skunk for something trippy like allegedly 75% sativa according to most dutch breeders, skunk #1
i was in a hurry when i listed those three dream crosses. i really like the idea of working with cherry flavor, and had imagined crossing buddha's sister with cream cheese tasting sour cream for a "cherry cheesecake" or chocolope for a chocolate covered cherry beanho's super silver haze 1 x pure chitral kush sounds very interesting too as it's supposedly cherry flavored and trippy. i'd like to compare it.
as i like the taste of orange, i wanted to make an orange haze. originally, i dreamed of cali-o, burmese & malawi gold, but just don't trust any burmese already having wasted $70 for vancouver island dead mutes. TGA Subcool's agent orange sounds like a great breeder for what i was after and about what i was aiming for, but the name is hideous and offensive to me. i think i'll try chimera's C-plus as an orange flavored alternative as some here likes that, and marry it to lemony malawi goldi like the idea of NOT using hazes in hybrids as so many are watered down these days and starting over with the purest IBLs available, and using the state of the art 9 week sativa dominants to get even more IBL type highs instead of low grade schwag ala skunk #1. ace, holy smokes and world of seeds seem to have a lot of old school genetics waiting to start new an improvedstrains out of.
while it's a fussy diva of a sativa, i was wowed by my sativa seeds' full moon (highland thai) as it had AUTHENTIC tutti fruity flavor, but i'd had enough of transplanting it and waiting for it to flower when it turned hermie on me. if i had the time and room to really work it, i'd marry that to john sinclair's compact and fast budding "generic fruity haze" sativa trans-love to make something like juicy fruit, but without the stone and with an upbeat trippy high less fussy to grow than thai. STL is a pretty compact plant as far as generic hazes go (DNA sweet haze is better all around, but very stretchy) but more importantly, it buds like razy leaving anything i've grown with a high in the dust early on anyways. as far as i know, full moon is the only true tutti fruity thai as most of the others use meao thai which is different.
if you could actually get the beans to pop, mekong haze is supposedly one of the trippiest strains in the world and dirt cheap at that, i'd want to use that for a new and improved jack herer successor. so many alleged hazes have no psychoactivity at all. there's one called JYD haze that apparently a couple breeders have gotten cuttings of that's supposed to be legit. i don't know how you'd find one of your own though. i'm annoyed that dinafem uses it touting it's psychoactivity, but then waters it down with 50% critical + instead of something already trippy like a jack herer, or at least back crosses it to 75% JYD (junk yard dog?)
i really liked CH9 jack too. it's compact and indica looking with a potent happy mid buzz, but not too stony at all or stinky despite it looking like a straight up cash cropping indica. i'd only pick it for the stature and nice buzz because, like STL, it has potential for breeding with stretchy sativas without dominating the buzz as much as pure afghanis have for so long, but i'm sure there's better strains. i like sticking with what's proven, but keep trying new gear.
i REALLY like TGA subcool's jack's cleaner 2 for it's 9 week finish, genuinely visual buzz, the warm and fuzzy, touchy feely euphoria and even it's mid stone is agreeable, though i like a bit nore motivation. it would make something nice out of just about anything you cross it with i'd imagine. i'd even consider it for BXing and pheno selection as it really made me happy.
if you were looking for a mildly trippy brute force potent motivational strain, high quality seeds' haze x skunk has a long lasting buzz that refuses to turn stony even after a month, though the cigar wrapper taste would agree more with tobacco lovers. descriptions i've heard of blue dream sound similar in effects, but i'm sure it tastes much better. i like it as a sort of AK-47 for getting high... not too refined, but not watered down either. when i do my breeding session with a malawi male, i expect haze skunk x malawi gold to be crazy potent and trippy with hopefully fatter stickier buds than pure malawi
if 17 week kali mist hadn't been reformulated, i'd have gotten that JUST for the awesome spicy crushed red pepper flavor of the original that's just fruity and spicy now. i wanted to make an "orange curry" out of that and cali-o. nothing compares to it's energetic and extra euphoric buzz that i've tried except C99, though it's nowhere near that energetic.
Last edited by hazey grapes; 11-12-2012 at 11:23 PM.
Jack's Cleaner 2, Sweet Haze, Haze x Skunk & 8 Miles High are all much fun, but fluffy, fuzzy 1985 Columbian Gold popcorn's that trippy! Thai? Malawi Gold? Mekong Haze (Cambodian)? Don't know.
get your favorites
Afghani is the basis for tons of varieties.
Skunk #1 or the Cheese that came from it.
Blueberry - mixes well with most everything
I think Ingrid is pretty much a form of Afghani.
Northern Lights (the original or #5)
Lamb's Breath (I grew up thinking it was lamb's bread. What do I know)
You gotta have haze to breed. Every hybrid I have tried with Haze in it is great. I don't like Haze on its own.
ISS - Love ISS, not sure how it crosses. (Someone should cross Blueberry and ISS)
Although monoecious plants are often referred to as "hermaphrodites," true hermaphrodites (which are less common) bear staminate and pistillate structures on individual flowers, whereas monoecious plants bear male and female flowers at different locations on the same plant.