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Why disturb a little seedling like that?
Doesn't look like it's being watered properly (looks very dry). Also looks like it is dying for more light.

drooping yellow leaves can be an indication of a variety of problems, they are probably just hungry. Whats your feeding regiment like?

Originally Posted by Nullis

Why disturb a little seedling like that?
Doesn't look like it's being watered properly (looks very dry). Also looks like it is dying for more light.

yeah could for sure be lighting.

how many plants are their total and whats the lighting?

it ended up being bad perlite which was full of nitrogen, the sprouts were dead dead dead, i saved the 3 bagseeds by transplanting them, they are doing MUCH better now, i used premium pro mix soil and organic perlite. i have 14 23-26 watt cfls on them, temps are 75-82 and rh hovers @50

Hi man. I'm from Club 600 although I only speak for myself. Your plants look overwatered, burnt and generally unhappy. It doesn't look like you use that much perlite in your mix, so I doubt that the N in there (it was Miracle Grow Perlite, I take it?) was enough to burn like that. Your tiny seedlings with the burnt first leaves; I've had that problem when I was using my tap water which has too much mineral content (like 450ppm).

What size pots are you growing in? Experienced growers can grow a seedling in a large pot, but it's an easy way to run into problems if you are just learning. You say you water every 3-4 days, but do your plants really need that? Under CFLs, they will transpire less so if you are watering them on a schedule instead of when they NEED water which you would determine by lifting the pot, you can run into problems with root development due to lack of oxygen in the root zone because they are drowning. Your uprooted seedlings kind of look like that's what happened.

My $.02

thanks shnkrmn, i appreciate your 2 cents
apparently i did alot of things wrong lol but we gotta learn somehow right? unfortunately at the expense of some master kush

i have them in 2 gallon nursery pots now. the bagseeds that survived had an awesome root system but you are right, those little seedlings had hardly any roots at all. i started the bagseed in party cups and then transplanted, the MK i put right into the 3 gallon buckets, now i know that was the wrong thing to do and i surely regret it

i am now using premium pro mix soil and organic perlite, which has NO odor. i can't believe i used perlite that smelled like cat piss, i didn't know it was bad lol, and freakn cow manure organic compost soil, hell i can't believe they even sell that shit (probably where the gnats came from). those suckers were always heavy and i did the finger in the soil method and thought they were dry BUT after dumping all that crap out at my pond, i found that they were muddy at the bottom, so like you say, overwatered, not enough perlite, basically i screwed up, but thats ok, i learned alot.

i have started take 2 today with premium soil and the master kush, i have the newly transplanted babies back under light and have given them nutes, they were a wonderful green the day after transplanting then started turning a bright yellow. cross your fingers and send some good vibes our way buddy thanks so much for taking a look, i much appreciate your advice, here's to you

transplanted on 9/27 into premium pro mix soil/perlite