Short And Potent Stain That Yields Decent

been looking around so difficlut to choose strain so many out there. so just wondering if i could get info from you guys. so i need something potent, obviously and it has to be short or be able to be kept short from using a screen. i guess if i wanted i could just flower and taller starin early to keep hieght down too right? the yeild can be average to high just dont want to end up with dinky little buds after all the work im gonna put in. but im goin to be doing a sog+vertical setup.
 

Hobbes

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Hey drunkenmonk

With stem training you can grow a 6' sativa in 6" space between your bucket rim and the heat safety zone below your light. These two plants were double topped and wrapped around the rim of the bucket - 4 x 20"+ for each stem = a 6'6" plant that will produce more than a plant grown vertically in the same space. Each plant produced about 7 cups of dried and trimmed bud.





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In the very worst case you can use the plant from seed as your mother and train a shorter mature clone for flower. Double or even triple top and it keeps the height down.

Think about the high/stone you want, then pick the breeders you'd buy from, then pick the strain.

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Short strain just so I'm not a complete asshole.

This Big Laughing pheno I have, seeds by Dr Greenthumb, is difficult to veg tall - it takes time. When put in flower it has a consistent stretch of 50%. I put this plant in flower at 16" and it finishes at 24" every time. But every Big Laughing pheno may not be like that.

This pheno could not be grown CCOB like the plants above because of the slow stem growth.



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bongsmilie
 

Hobbes

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DJ Short

The first spectrum to consider is the "up and down". "Up" refers to the stimulating aspects of cannabis, while "down" refers to sedative qualities. Up pot tends to liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions, inspiring sociability and talkativeness. Down pot tends to produce sedative and depressant effects. Some people refer to stimulating pot as being a "head" high and sedative pot as being a "body" high, yet although partially true this is also misleading.

Body and head highs are the next spectrum of the cannabis experience. Generally speaking, head highs are stimulating and body highs are sedative, but not all are. Some body highs are stimulating and some head highs are depressing. I once sampled a terribly paranoia-inducing head pot that inspired great couch lock qualities. I called it Boo-Goo.

Early to late harvest will affect the head to body spectrum expressed by a certain plant, with the later harvest tending to produce more body and sedative effects. However, I believe that certain aspects of this spectrum to be genetically inherited.

Next to consider are aspects of duration. Some cannabis tends to be short-acting (15-30min) whereas other varieties last much longer (6-7 hours). Once again production, harvesting and curing techniques can influence aspects of this spectrum, but much of this effect is inherited.

For me, the most important aspect of the cannabis experience to consider is tolerance. This refers to the product's ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. By "over time" I mean the long run: months, years, decades...

Most of the cannabis I see on the market today has a terrible tolerance factor – a quick burnout time with the product's novelty lasting less than a week. Luther Burbank's model of breeding needs to be employed here and no expression of tolerance to your product is to be tolerated. An example of where intolerance to tolerance is tolerated – enough already!

Another aspect of tolerance is "ceiling." This refers to how high (or far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can you consume until more hits are unnoticeable? Most indicas have a low ceiling of less than 10 hits. For me that's usually around 5 hits in one smoking session. If I smoke more than 5 hits of a strong indica I will either not notice the post-ceiling hits, or I will fall asleep.

Some sativas have a very high ceiling, or seem to have none at all! This means that the more you consume, the higher and further you go. Oaxaca Highland Gold, Black Magic African, and Highland Thai were some of the herbs I've tried with very high or no ceiling.

The final aspect of mental effects to consider when sampling strains for breeding is the tendency to produce anxiety. Certain strains of cannabis increase anxiety while others decrease it. This is also true for other emotions, which some strains may suppress while others may augment their intensity. Generally stimulating and head varieties are the ones that can produce unwanted anxiety, but this is not always the case. Quickly cured buds or an over-early harvest are contributing factors to anxiety-increasing pot, but this trait is also genetic in nature.

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bongsmilie
 

DubRules

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i agree with hobbes.
lst is the way to go.
if you top and lst the shit out of a northern lights plant, it will be exactly what you are looking for.
bushy
good yielding
potent
 

Hobbes

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I agree with Dubrules. ;)

I had a Northern Lights that I double topped and it finished at 21" after a couple months of veg. And produced about 2.5 oz, nuggets of bud from nearly the ground packed around the stem to the top.

I still have a clone as mother: first generation; topped once; two years old; and about 14" tall. Branch nodes about 0.25" apart. I neglect it a lot.

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bongsmilie
 
thanks for the great advise guys. +rep. i had been considering northern lights as well as white widow. since you guys have already grown it, which seed comp did you guys get yours from?
 

stanky

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I had a local cut of Skywalker (MazarXBlueberry) that stayed very short and responded well to supper cropping, yielded about 3 zips off a a 2 foot tall plant in a 5 gal bucket in soil less mix. Very very potent too, pure couchlock week. Pheno def. leaned toward the Mazar side. Skunky earthy with subtle blue undertones. Great smoke.

Stanky
 
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