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			<title><![CDATA[Water Stress? Heat Stress? Nute damage? Lack of nutes? I'm lost.]]></title>
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I am currently experiencing several problems. I have the environmental conditions to be a prime victim of moisture...</description>
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				<div class="message">I am currently experiencing several problems. I have the environmental conditions to be a prime victim of moisture and heat stress. Humidity is less than 20% and tempuratures are alway 100-110 during the day. I have a raised bed set up with a timed drip system for my watering, but I haven't found a watering frequency that seems quite perfect yet. I have switched between watering every day and every other day for varying lengths as well as watering in both the morning and evening.<br />
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Here are my problems:<br />
*I have leaves that are yellowing and dying on the bottom half of my plants. The leaves pictured below in particular have almost all yellowed and fallen off. They come off the main stem and are always directly below nodes that attach to the stem.<br />
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*I have leaves that are cupping on the top third or so of a coupe plants<br />
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*I have leaves that have rusty edges and tips and necrotic spots<br />
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*I have leaves that are crispy and dry feeling at the bottom of some plants<br />
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My nutes are Jack's 30-10-10- and 10-30-20. I have always been a pretty light feeder and haven't really fed at all over the last month as I thought some damage might somehow be from nute burn.<br />
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Curiously, my leaves started to curl after I took out the house and gave my plants a big flush. Could I maybe have had salt build up on the surface that I flushed into the soil? I know I have hard water.<br />
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I have been trying to self-diagnose my problems by reading over the last month but I really need some expert advise. They still seem to be growing at a steady rate but these yellow leaves concern me. Are yellow leaves every normal? I just don't understand why most leaves can look so healthy yet I have some that look unhealthy as could be.<br />
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			<title>Post 5 - Three Month Update (Vegetative Growth and Sexing)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:35:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>New pictures. For the past month or so I have been battling what I think is a bacterial disease. Today was the first day that I started feeding again...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">New pictures. For the past month or so I have been battling what I think is a bacterial disease. Today was the first day that I started feeding again with my 30-10-10 Jack's. I think some of the damage my plants my be seeing my have been due to overfeeding. Today I fed at 1/2Tbsp per 2 gallons which is about 1/4 strength. I'm hoping to get rid of the yellowing leaves on the bottom 1/3 of my plants. <br />
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<font size="3">6/27</font><br />
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<font size="3">7/7 </font><br />
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Tallest<br />
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Shortest<br />
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<font size="3">7/7 Sexing</font><br />
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			<title>Picture Growth Timeline - First two months</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 04:51:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Here is a little timeline I created with some of the photos from my journal entries. When I am around my plants all the time I can't put their growth...]]></description>
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			<title>Post 4 - Two Month Update. Possible problems/diseases (Pictures)</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:43:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>6/13 - Here are pictures I took today. I have noticed a few problems that I have pictures of below. Let me know what you think. We have been...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">6/13 - Here are pictures I took today. I have noticed a few problems that I have pictures of below. Let me know what you think. We have been experiencing tempuratures of 100+ for about two weeks. Possible some heat stress?<br />
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The whole garden. <br />
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Notice the burnt edges.<br />
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I was trying to get a picture of the burnt leaves and while looking at the picture I noticed the white looking fungus that I hadn't seen before. What is going on here? What is causing the burnt leaves and what the heck is the white on the stem? Disease? This is my runt of the group by the way.<br />
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Can anyone tell the sex from these pics? Are those pistils? I sure hope so! The seeds are feminized but I know hermis are still possible.<br />
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Sex?<br />
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Tallest<br />
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Runt<br />
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That is it for the pictures. I have fed my plants three times since I returned on the second with Jack's at 1 tbsp per two gallons. The first two were with 30-10-10 and just yesterday I gave them a shot of 10-30-20. I water 10 minutes a day at 7:30. I don't get any runoff but the soil is always somewhat moist underneath the surface. My soil drains pretty well. Again, temps have hit around 110 F but they are out of direct sunlight around noon.<br />
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			<title>Post 3 - Vegitative Growth at 7 Weeks (Pictures)</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:29:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>6/2 - I had been gone for over two weeks. I was extremely nervous to see what state they were in but was almost surprised how great everything...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">6/2 - I had been gone for over two weeks. I was extremely nervous to see what state they were in but was almost surprised how great everything looked. Certainly not crazy growth going on here but at least they look healthy.<br />
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Overall a big improvement from when I left. I had feared for their lives while I was gone but was pleasently surprised to see everything was doing just fine. <br />
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One is hiding behind the dill.<br />
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Hard to see but they are there behind the tomatillos.<br />
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I was quite pleased to see how they are coming along. They certainly aren't growing an inch per day or anything, and maybe haven't quite met my growth expectations, but this is my first grow. Can't complain too much. I imagine it has a lot to do with the amount of light they receive. They face east so they only receive morning and early afternoon sun. I feel that given the heat we experience it is for the best, but I sure wish I could give them more hours in the sunshine.<br />
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Let me know what you think. Any advice is welcome.</blockquote>

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			<title>Post 2 - Transplanting</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 18:35:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>This will be a quick picture update. I will be leaving my girls for a few weeks. I am nervous but they took the transplant just fine. 
  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">This will be a quick picture update. I will be leaving my girls for a few weeks. I am nervous but they took the transplant just fine.<br />
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5/10 - Panned to transplant today but delayed due to wind. <br />
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5/12 - Transplanting day. Some of the lower leafs aren't looking too great. <br />
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Notice the yellow leaves. This is the worst one of the four but I don't know what is going on here. I wouldn't think it is a nitrogen deficiency but it could.<br />
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Is that nute burn at the very tips? I'm almost certain the white residue is just from my hard water.<br />
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Transplant time!<br />
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I thought the root ball would have been more developed. The soil felt VERY warm when I took it out of the cup. Would that inhibit growth?<br />
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Looks happy enough, eh? Those yellow leaves bother me though...<br />
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5/14 - Von Voyage. Won't see 'em again for over two weeks... Thank goodness for the auto-timed drip system. I didn't have time to fine tune the water flow though. I just know they won't be going thirsty. It is going to start gettign hot.<br />
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And there they are with the rest of the crowd. Hope everything shoots up during the two weeks I am gone. <br />
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That's the update for now.<br />
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Any comments on the yellowing of the bottom leafs would be appreciated.</blockquote>

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			<title>Post 1 - First Three Weeks</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 08:03:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*The Beginning - Weeks 1-3*(4/11-5/1) 
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<b><font size="2">Germinating</font></b><br />
I am a first time grower. Bought <a href="http://www.nirvana-shop.com/en/outdoor-marijuana-seeds/jock-horror-feminized-5-seeds.html" target="_blank">feminized Jock Horror beans</a> from Nirvana after failing to get some old bag seed to germinate. These seeds from Nirvana arrived in less than 1 week and looked fantastic, far better than my bagseed. <br />
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I started my girls on April 11 by putting them in dixie cups which I poked several holes in and then filled with a mix of Jiffy starting soil and my <a href="http://plantworldnursery.com/page.php?key=1060" target="_blank">garden soil which I bought from a local nursery</a>. My garden soil seems to have a lot of sand which becomes a little dense when wet and crusty when dry; the Jiffy made the soil lighter. The cups were then placed on a cable box to act as a heating pad. They broke the surface on April 14. <br />
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I had planted one seed a week earlier than the others and lost it due to a fluffy white mold forming on the cotyledons. The next day the entire seedling was shriveled up beyond repair. I read up on Uncle Ben's germinating technique and haven't had a problem with the other 4. I realized from my failed seed that covering with saran wrap is not necessary and the lack of fresh air makes it very easy for mold or fungus to develop.<br />
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<b>Weather</b><br />
Immediately upon breaking ground, I took them outside. I was a little apprehensive to do this since I've read so much about how it is necessary to harden plants off. Uncle Ben posted about how he exposes seedlings to direct sunlight as long as they are placed outside right as they are beginning to break ground, so this is what I did. For the first two weeks I would still bring them in at night as I was unsure if they could withstand the colder nights. This probably wasn't necessary in hindsight but gave me peace of mind.<br />
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After two weeks they have been left outside. Night time temps have been around 50F. I have a recycling bin I placed my youngins in to shield them a bit from the wind, it works great. We have had 20+mph winds lately and they have been standing strong. I have woken up some nights in panic seeing how crazy the wind is, but when I get up and check on my girls they are always just fine. They are troopers.<br />
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The day after first night out. Look just fine. Received first watering with Jack's at 1/8 tsp per gallon shortly after these pics.<br />
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<b>Watering and Nutrients</b><br />
I have been watering every other day as that is when they dry out. I have been letting them get VERY dry before watering. I may not let them get as dry from now on. For the first two weeks I was watering from the bottom by dropping the cups in water and letting the water seep in through the drainage holes until I could see water coming up through the soil. I was noticing something that seemed strange to me. My plants were experiencing their biggest growth spurts at night and when they were beginning to dry out. Due to this observation, I think submerging them in water wasn't the best thing to do. I am now watering from the top until I get about 5% runoff coming out the bottom. Growth seems to be picking up now but I can't assume this is due to watering. Even now though, while I can tell they are growing, they don't seem to be growing as fast as I think they should be.<br />
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I began giving them nutrients at 2 weeks. I've learned from Uncle Ben that you should read your plants so I am trying to do just that. I am using <a href="http://www.jacksclassic.com/orchid_special.html" target="_blank">Jack's Classic 30-10-10</a> for vegging. My first waterings were at 1/8 tsp per gallon; Jack's recommends regular feedings at 1/4 tsp per gallon. I just mixed a new batch at about 1/6 tsp per gallon and will work my way up from there. My leaves haven't been as green as I want but they still look healthy (to a first time grower at least) so I have been taking it easy on the ferts. Growth still isn't spectacular but I'm in no hurry. <br />
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Two days after first watering with nutrients. Just had a little bath with Jack's at 1/8 tsp per gallon. Do they look a little greener already?<br />
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I am now waiting to put them into their final home in my raised bed I built from 2x12's. I am not sure when would be a good time to transplant. I want the roots to be nicely developed but I'm not sure how long that takes. Any suggestions?<br />
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I'm also not sure how long to run my drip system. I was thinking 15 minutes every two days. I just planted some herbs, peppers, and artichokes in my raised bed and have them set to be watered every morning for 10 minutes. I guess I'm just going to have to experiment. I am also going to try placing my ferts in my hose-end filter to run through the drip system.<br />
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Tomorrow is picture day. I will update soon. <br />
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Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Thanks for looking.</blockquote>

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