Az cultivation rights.

I just renewed my AZDHS MM card even though my original card doesn't expire until the end of September. My understand (from reading on the AZDHS website) is: If there is a Dispensary OPERATING within 25 miles when you RENEW your card, your lose your rights to cultivate. They won't be looking up patients that have existing cards and asking for a "redo."

Also, I was surprised to see that even though I renewed the first week in August, the RENEWAL Card doesn't become effective until my original card expires at the end of September. My renewal card keeps the original expiration date. So even if someone opened a Dispensary next door tomorrow, I can still cultivate. Again, the right to cultivate is determined when you RENEW, not after you get your card.

Originally Posted by Ringsixty

Now that the State has started awarding the dispensary blah. blah.
I know what all the talking heads say. No grand fathering of cultivation rights..
Has anyone renewed their card? Did they suspend you cultivation rights?

Cultivation is a privilege, not a right. It might be a better angle to refer to it as a license.

The way the DHS evaluates this is at card renewal or when authorization is requested by a qualifying patient with an existing card.
They will take the patient's address and the address of the nearest dispensary that is operating on the day that they issue the card, and measure it in a straight line.

Many of us have gotten card renewals. Obviously there are no dispensaries operating, so the renewals have authorization still.
Also you can get your renewal up to 90 days ahead of expiration, which many of us did, because of the fear and doubt associated with the big lottery and so forth. We got renewal cards with an issue date in the future, with "Authorized to Cultivate" established for a year from that future date. The way I see it, that's long enough to get serious about moving to Oregon or Colorado.

I expect there to be no lawful individual cultivation in this state after 2013. Sure, there will be places where it will be allowed, but not any place where I could make a living.

There's an election coming up and there is no marijuana legalization initiative on it. I see that as us missing our last chance.

Originally Posted by mrbill

I just renewed my AZDHS MM card even though my original card doesn't expire until the end of September. My understand (from reading on the AZDHS website) is: If there is a Dispensary OPERATING within 25 miles when you RENEW your card, your lose your rights to cultivate. They won't be looking up patients that have existing cards and asking for a "redo."

Also, I was surprised to see that even though I renewed the first week in August, the RENEWAL Card doesn't become effective until my original card expires at the end of September. My renewal card keeps the original expiration date. So even if someone opened a Dispensary next door tomorrow, I can still cultivate. Again, the right to cultivate is determined when you RENEW, not after you get your card.

If you don't have authorization on your card, you can request it the day they shutdown the dispensaries.

So here is a scenario that I expect to see:

1. Dispensaries open up and people start getting renewals without cultivation.
2. Patients get organized and start calling in the DEA on the dispensaries.
3. Dispensaries shut down for the week or so that is required to get your card updated.

Has this possibility not occurred to you?

Originally Posted by UnderBelly

Cultivation is a privilege, not a right. It might be a better angle to refer to it as a license.

The way the DHS evaluates this is at card renewal or when authorization is requested by a qualifying patient with an existing card.
They will take the patient's address and the address of the nearest dispensary that is operating on the day that they issue the card, and measure it in a straight line.

Many of us have gotten card renewals. Obviously there are no dispensaries operating, so the renewals have authorization still.
Also you can get your renewal up to 90 days ahead of expiration, which many of us did, because of the fear and doubt associated with the big lottery and so forth. We got renewal cards with an issue date in the future, with "Authorized to Cultivate" established for a year from that future date. The way I see it, that's long enough to get serious about moving to Oregon or Colorado.

I expect there to be no lawful individual cultivation in this state after 2013. Sure, there will be places where it will be allowed, but not any place where I could make a living.

There's an election coming up and there is no marijuana legalization initiative on it. I see that as us missing our last chance.

Thats what Our countrymen are the best at doing... Taking rights and converting them to privileges!

Your opinion is far from fact mate!! But the ideology has been branded in alot of folks! It is a shame to see it happen!

Traveling on public highways has been an inalienable right since day one!! Now we have the MVD telling everyone driving is not a right but a privilege. What they lack to tell you is conducting commerce on public highways require a drivers license but merely traveling doesn't constitute a need for a drivers license.. Conducting commerce requires a license and registration on public highways!! The same principles apply to every right the is slow being converted to a privilege.. Look up the definition of a "Motor Vehicle" .. What do you find? A motor vehicle is defined as a "commercial" vehicle.. Thats why I travel on the public highways in my Automobile. It is One's right to travel on all public highways! This situation reminds me of the AzDHS MMJ Program!

Back to the topic...

I tried to renew and received a message saying contact the Arizona Dept. of Health Services..

Is the AZDHS Shut Down??

Originally Posted by UnderBelly

Cultivation is a privilege, not a right. It might be a better angle to refer to it as a license.

The way the DHS evaluates this is at card renewal or when authorization is requested by a qualifying patient with an existing card.
They will take the patient's address and the address of the nearest dispensary that is operating on the day that they issue the card, and measure it in a straight line.

Many of us have gotten card renewals. Obviously there are no dispensaries operating, so the renewals have authorization still.
Also you can get your renewal up to 90 days ahead of expiration, which many of us did, because of the fear and doubt associated with the big lottery and so forth. We got renewal cards with an issue date in the future, with "Authorized to Cultivate" established for a year from that future date. The way I see it, that's long enough to get serious about moving to Oregon or Colorado.

I expect there to be no lawful individual cultivation in this state after 2013. Sure, there will be places where it will be allowed, but not any place where I could make a living.

There's an election coming up and there is no marijuana legalization initiative on it. I see that as us missing our last chance.

Originally Posted by UnderBelly

If you don't have authorization on your card, you can request it the day they shutdown the dispensaries.

So here is a scenario that I expect to see:

1. Dispensaries open up and people start getting renewals without cultivation.
2. Patients get organized and start calling in the DEA on the dispensaries.
3. Dispensaries shut down for the week or so that is required to get your card updated.

Has this possibility not occurred to you?

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Originally Posted by UnderBelly

If you don't have authorization on your card, you can request it the day they shutdown the dispensaries.

So here is a scenario that I expect to see:

1. Dispensaries open up and people start getting renewals without cultivation.
2. Patients get organized and start calling in the DEA on the dispensaries.
3. Dispensaries shut down for the week or so that is required to get your card updated.

Has this possibility not occurred to you?

Do you realize calling the popo is not in anyone's book of fixing an issue!!

What if someone doesn't like you for the legal use of Medical marijuana under State law but they in return calls the DEA on your tail... How would you feel?

If the AzDHS was compromised by the FEDs consider all your info compromised and the same goes for every patient & caregiver - address, caregiver, cultivating or not, current photo so on...

Please read the Arizona Medical marijuana Act before misinforming folks! As a informed community good shall come but with non sense opinions that are your opinions which I respect but do not see facts! I get tickled when I see honest opinions displayed as fact! No question is a dumb question... Have you read the AzMMA?

There are better options....

A wise person would stop cultivating if the AzDHS denies them of their cultivation rights... Shortly after they should go downtown to the Superior Court of Maricopa filing litigation for a Declaratory Judgement and an injunction against the AzDHS and others... With prayer of relief from prosecution for the need of medicine that can't be afford from a dispensary.

But truly I see no dispensaries in AZ... I think Mr. Montgomery beat you to the punch... He plans to enforce federal laws against those in line with state laws!!

I keep saying that AZ State screwed the pooch when they allowed almost 30,000 a license to cultivate.

Now they expect everyone to toss their grow equipment and use the disp. I may not be the sharpest tool but I expect some if not all the disps to have troubles. Troubles with the feds and trouble keeping the disp supplied.

So what happens a year from now when joe law abiding citizen has quit growing and the feds shut down the disp? Or the disps cannot supply themselves?

Lots of problems on the horizen. Only one solution and thats wide open cultivation.

There is another option for some of us and thats if you qualify as a hardship case. If you dont have a job, have not had one recently and dont expect one anytime soon you are hardship qualified