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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicseeker View Post
    Who is going to obtain medicine @ $500 an ounce, or even $400?
    Ridiculous..
    In this poor ass state, not to mention..
    Just quoting CFCC's quarterly figures.

    Flawed for patients most of all IMO.
    If this was patient oriented, dispensaries would have been up and running the first go around.
    Instead, the powers at be forced patients to buy illegally as well as forced compliant/ potentially suffering individuals to spend money on home cultivation.
    Which is now being taken away in a yr and a few months....
    NOT FOR THE PATIENTS... Neither are the so called caregivers charging $350 a Z to patients who are providing their 12 plants. It is sad watching people take advantage of one another, when if produced correctly, there should be plenty to go around.

    Also not to mention all of the grey areas in the laws that can be easily misunderstood by the typical patient, such as P2P guidelines, ultimately putting patients in a bad situation with the "real law."
    Maybe down the rd there will be more patient advocacy, but the department did veto the newly requested condions, requested by patient or future patients.
    I don't care too much for their reasoning, it's extremely convoluted.
    Just playing devils advocate here but I think people have thrown a lot more blame on Humble than is deserved.

    Lets not forget he isn't the one that wrote the shitty bill to begin with.

    Also Jan Brewer is the one who brought things to a halt. I can understand hating on her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Vorenus View Post
    Just playing devils advocate here but I think people have thrown a lot more blame on Humble than is deserved.

    Lets not forget he isn't the one that wrote the shitty bill to begin with.

    Also Jan Brewer is the one who brought things to a halt. I can understand hating on her.
    Yeah I used to think this or at least gave him the benefit of the doubt. But after this bullshit with the denial of conditions based on an inquiry that was planned to fail I now know for sure he is a smug self righteous prick. Go read his interview it is on azcentral I think. Read between the lines on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irieie View Post
    Yeah I used to think this or at least gave him the benefit of the doubt. But after this bullshit with the denial of conditions based on an inquiry that was planned to fail I now know for sure he is a smug self righteous prick. Go read his interview it is on azcentral I think. Read between the lines on that one.
    got a link?
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    He's a politician, what do you expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337hacker View Post
    got a link?
    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ns-denied.html

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    Yes the law is vauge enough for interpretation and that is a problem. However Humble and his chronies (NORMAL and mpp)are the ones that tried to take and pervert it. Then the county and city officials continue to pervert it with zoning laws.

    I actually thought Brewer would help going before the feds. The feds would have said no and then everyone would have been able to cultivate. But nooooo everyone wanted to push the issue and now in a year we won't grow.

    At one point some of our legislators tried to pass a 300% tax. I was sending emails to both Brewer and the rest thanking them for helping the movement. I specifically said thank you for trying to implement the tax as no one would ever buy from a dispensary and they would all fail.

    As the counties and cities were releasing the zoning laws I would email them and thank them for making it impossible to find available real estate. They were only second in helping the movement to the legislators.

    Finally I am going to say something I know will cause a fuss. I respect Joe Arpiao for stating if your doing it wrong we will tune you up. I like Joe Arpiao!!! While I would not want to tangle with his posse I respect him greatly. You may not like his position but you always know where he stands. He does not waiver period!! The shire reeves in this country are the only ones standing up to the feds!! We need to stand behind them since they are the only ones with greater power than the fed locally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irieie View Post
    Yeah I used to think this or at least gave him the benefit of the doubt. But after this bullshit with the denial of conditions based on an inquiry that was planned to fail I now know for sure he is a smug self righteous prick. Go read his interview it is on azcentral I think. Read between the lines on that one.
    It was Will Humble that told us to use the "chronic pain" route to get our Depression and PTSD patients approved. You guys seem to forget he has to keep up appearances but I do not think he is against medical Cannabis at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Vorenus View Post
    Just playing devils advocate here but I think people have thrown a lot more blame on Humble than is deserved.

    Lets not forget he isn't the one that wrote the shitty bill to begin with.

    Also Jan Brewer is the one who brought things to a halt. I can understand hating on her.
    Humble actually hired people to help write the initiative, such as reps from Altitude Organics...
    Enough said there, AO is a bunch of scammers, they make you pay them to run your business w/o assuming any risk.
    when the shit hits the fan they will run with the money and leave clients high and dry.
    Oh yeah ALtitude Organics is comprised of some of the big wigs from High Times.
    AO understand the importance of having the 25 mile sanction, I'm sure they even helped suggest the final distance. They ran businesses in Colorado which is now considered to be overgrown, see the correlation. Oh yeah remember that 500k loan that went up in smoke between CO and AZ, look into it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Vorenus View Post
    It was Will Humble that told us to use the "chronic pain" route to get our Depression and PTSD patients approved. You guys seem to forget he has to keep up appearances but I do not think he is against medical Cannabis at all.
    You seem to forget Will Humble was placing medical marijuan in quotations on his blog. Suggesting there is no medical value and pretty much undermining the program to which he is the face. This should help paint a picture of this guy. A patient went on his blog on tore him apart, none the less William doesn't use quotes like that anymore. This action supports the notion that he is straight up against medical marijuana.

    It's all the Devils lettuce to the powers the be in AZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronicseeker View Post
    It's all the Devils lettuce to the powers the be in AZ.
    I am stealing your line and adding it to my signature. You get no credit here is your decleration of theft!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Vorenus View Post
    I agree it has it's flaws. From a growers side of things I see everyones point. However, lets think about this for a second. This is a baby step on the way to legalization and we now have a legal way to obtain marijuana legally in Arizona! Let's just all simmer down and appreciate the upsides to things a bit.
    Legalization will likely not happen that easy!! I see lifting the criminal aspect of marijuana but not legalization!! Come on now!

    Thats like say Corn is not regulated in commercial production! Taxes, licenses, fees, dues, homage...

    For personal consumption marijuana maybe decriminalized but legalization! Thats a big step!!

    With the new Pres in mexico stating he will turn a blind eye to the drug trade if the violance stops!
    This will force US to change our policies so the violence does not come over the border!!
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