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IVIars

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what? everyone should worry about ph, I feel it is the most important part of rapid growth and nice yelds. Watering a 5 will catch up with you in the form of locking out the base nutes N, P, K, and Mg. 6 is great like stated above and I like 5.7 for my res.
It seems from your posts you grow in hydro. I grow organic in coco and soil. Im not knocking anyones grow method here, your buds look very nice. But inwhen growing in organics you don't have to worry about the ph. The microbes and benes in the soil will adjust the ph. When running the General Organics lineup, they tell you not to adjust the ph of the nutes.

I agree when running a hydro setup with synthetic nutes that you should be diligent with the ph
 

Bird Gymnastics

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Little tip for you: distilled water and RO water (if the membrane is new-ish) both have no buffering capacity; this means that the pH will swing wildly when you add something that is acidic or basic. Moreover, pH probes don't work well with pure water. pH papers are much better at that sort of thing; indicator solutions are also OK.

So, first off, I don't know of any fertilizer products that are designed to provide the "correct" pH (whatever that may be) right out of the bottle. They require adjustment- usually with alkali, because they tend to be slightly acidic in solution. Many products also have buffers added; it is immediately apparent which ones do because it takes substantially more pH up (alkali) to get the pH into the right range. The benefit is that these products tend to support the correct pH during growth. I note from personal experience that General Hydroponics Floranova takes about 4x as much potassium hydroxide solution (which is what I use for pH adjustment- I make my own) than comparable nutrient products that have no buffers added.

You can raise the pH with any one of a number of products; anything in the "pH Up" category at the hydro store will work. Baking soda will work in a pinch, but it adds no nutritional value; it is comprised of sodium (which plants generally cannot use), and bicarbonate (which is harmless). Other alkali, like sodium hydroxide (lye) and potassium hydroxide, are inexpensive and effective, but also extremely caustic (hazardous to eyes and skin) and (unless used with a buffer) will cause the pH to swing quickly. Make sure they are quite dilute before adding to solution; I use 0.1 molar, which works out to 5.61 grams potassium hydroxide into a liter of water. Note that such solutions should be stored in plastic, and not glass.

Potassium carbonate (used in many "pH up" formulations for hydroponics use) is much better, but harder to find.
try a silica product to raise the ph. this can be better than ph up which will kill certain beneficial bacteria and fungi. it will also add silica to your plants diet which will increase stem strength.


for soil that is what i feed in veg.
It seems from your posts you grow in hydro. I grow organic in coco and soil. Im not knocking anyones grow method here, your buds look very nice. But inwhen growing in organics you don't have to worry about the ph. The microbes and benes in the soil will adjust the ph. When running the General Organics lineup, they tell you not to adjust the ph of the nutes.

I agree when running a hydro setup with synthetic nutes that you should be diligent with the ph
My ph meter has more dust on it then my shed that sits outside. I think with a living organic medium you never have to oh as you stated. +rep for that comment!
 

BeaverHuntr

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It seems from your posts you grow in hydro. I grow organic in coco and soil. Im not knocking anyones grow method here, your buds look very nice. But inwhen growing in organics you don't have to worry about the ph. The microbes and benes in the soil will adjust the ph. When running the General Organics lineup, they tell you not to adjust the ph of the nutes.

I agree when running a hydro setup with synthetic nutes that you should be diligent with the ph
I do love the simplicity of feeding my organic mother plants with distilled water, Humbolt Organic Grow juice 3-1-3, and GH Organic Cal/Mag.. Thats it shake the 1 gallon jug up a bit and into my watering can. No messing with blue bottles of Ph up.. Its pretty easy.
 

Philosophist

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I feed my plants with Ph'd fox farms Nutes is that bad to do??? I have never read taht with organic you dont have to worry about ph....
 

swaggersDlite

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I feed my plants with Ph'd fox farms Nutes is that bad to do??? I have never read taht with organic you dont have to worry about ph....
usually you dont have to worry as much in organic fertilizer, but if you are using fox farm nutes the only thing organic is there "big bloom" so yes! ph this fertilizer, i love these nutes for soil. no longer really using fox far soil because its so hot. now im using this roots organic 707 blend it Rocks!. if i don't completely switch over to coco next grow i will use this 707 then for sure cant praise it enough, (only had the 707 like a month or so)..if you have open sesame, beastie blooms, or cha-ching, your ph will drop very low adjust accordingly;(these three flower boosters is the best part of the line up IMO).
 

BeaverHuntr

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usually you dont have to worry as much in organic fertilizer, but if you are using fox farm nutes the only thing organic is there "big bloom" so yes! ph this fertilizer, i love these nutes for soil. no longer really using fox far soil because its so hot. now im using this roots organic 707 blend it Rocks!. if i don't completely switch over to coco next grow i will use this 707 then for sure cant praise it enough, (only had the 707 like a month or so)..if you have open sesame, beastie blooms, or cha-ching, your ph will drop very low adjust accordingly;(these three flower boosters is the best part of the line up IMO).

A mix of 50/50 ocean forest and happy frog will make a less " hot" soil... hear nothing but good things about 707 from Roots
 
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