man mike those look awsome! I think the 2 sec is the sweet spot! I found keeping my on time there and backing off slowly in flower evn landing at 2/ 30 off! worked greatOriginally Posted by Mike Young
There is no timed setting that works the same for everyone in aero. The point is to get the saturation just right given all the variables. That said, you might both have good results at 2 seconds, but it doesn't automatically mean the same results for everyone else. Just pointing this out in case someone sees it and thinks 2 seconds is a magic number for all HP setups...
Stellar roots Mike, I never get tired of seeing them
My attempt at building a homebrew ATOMIX Air Atomized Aeroponic System
My new HP cloner setup...
Well, I decided to put together something out of what I already had laying around. Ended up using a sterilite container instead of a 5 gallon bucket.
Very simple (6) site 2" netpot w/neoprene insert cloner, just hooked up my garden hose to a small length of JG line with 2 red cloudtops nozzles in the bottom pointing upwards towards the roots and controlled by a solenoid and timer set to 2 seconds every 5 minutes. I checked the chamber today and after 24 hours it was only a third full- perhaps 2 gallons or so of wastewater. I've been really, really busy lately, so luckily this only took about 15 minutes to make, and I already had all of the components on hand...
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P.s.- this time I got ballsy- instead of cherry tomatoes, I used beefsteak- lol...
Edit: I just realized the cycle time was set at 2 seconds per minute, so now it should really go through little water at the new setting of 3 seconds per 5 minutes...
Last edited by Trichy Bastard; 05-23-2012 at 08:49 PM.
yea I guess your right but 2 sec seems to be the sweet spot in my experience but could be diff for others.There is no timed setting that works the same for everyone in aero. The point is to get the saturation just right given all the variables. That said, you might both have good results at 2 seconds, but it doesn't automatically mean the same results for everyone else. Just pointing this out in case someone sees it and thinks 2 seconds is a magic number for all HP setups...
Stellar roots Mike, I never get tired of seeing them
nice cloner I need to fab one up asap
Go TB and the Aero crew
Kona and Kaptain Makin' it Go Hard and Makin' it Happin'
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Just Awesome.....
Hey fellas.. I'll start by thanking all of you. This whole thread is quite incredible and inspiring! Ive been getting parts together since I read cav's thread a while back and when I started doing research again I fortunately stumbled across this compilation of priceless knowledge and information! I will be incorporating a schneider electric PLC into my hp aero set up, for control and timing of solenoids and such, along with SSR's.. (minimal response delay time). The software for the PLC is downloadable free and they are pretty fairly priced units. red cloud tops, 5 gal accum, shurflo, JG fittings, You all know the digs... Everything that I know I have either read here or on cav's thread so I will undoubtedly be back when I begin to put all of the parts together with questions and probably some calcs for atomizer to verify when I start sizing the chamber.. lol.
I was also wondering about this pump for a HP cloner -- http://cloudtops.com/misting_systems.../mistpumps.php
Keep up the good work!!!!
HP AeroCloner update
Well, today I find one of the 6 cuttings is sprouting quite a few root starts... Only on the 4th day of propagation - Nice
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It may or not be too early to say I have finally settled on my chosen cloning method... So far I think it's looking pretty darn good.
Last edited by Trichy Bastard; 05-26-2012 at 11:27 PM.
Hey welcome AeroApprentice... Sounds like you know pretty much what's up... Cav's thread was great for walking through the steps and build process, I think the one thing he could have done better in hindsight is have larger chambers. The pump looks okay, but I am not familiar with the sound level it may operate at. It does have brass fittings which are slightly more concern in a cloner as you might recirculate but to be honest there is so little throw away I'd just DTW on it as well unless it's particularly large. Also, I really believe if your main pressure is around 60psi or above I would just run off of that and call it good (maybe even no matter what the pressure is). No noise, and so much simpler. Mine has been working well so far
Last edited by Trichy Bastard; 05-26-2012 at 11:29 PM.
Great job Tb
Kona and Kaptain Makin' it Go Hard and Makin' it Happin'
http://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growi...ll-myself.html
Argh, I had an issue with the cloner... There is a float level switch integrated into the timer that when opened turns off the timer to the solenoid. I should have jumpered the wires together for a permanent fix, but out of laziness I just used a rubberband on the float to hold it into the closed circuit position. The rubberband apparently broke yesterday and I thought it was a cycle adjustment that caused the timer to quit working that I had already fixed. The end result is around 12 hours of no spraying, and here is a pic of the damage... The tops are not wilting in the slightest, and I believe this is only a setback, not a total loss. Anyway, hope the roots go back to growing again now.
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I've also adjusted the mistings to 3 seconds every 1 minute in hopes the roots grow thicker and stronger. Cavadge was misting for 20 seconds or so every minute with a ton of nozzles and the roots looked very good for initial clones. I figure good roots in the rockwool will fare better and then the new hp roots can grow off of those once they exit the rockwool.
Last edited by Trichy Bastard; 05-30-2012 at 04:56 PM.
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