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Old 08-13-2008, 03:34 AM
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Default Genetics, cloning, and mutated plants
Hi folks, I have a question.

I know that once a plant is born, it has certain genetics that determine many things about it.
I know that when you clone a plant that you reproduce its genetics. Therefore given the same environment you will have the same plant.

If you have a plant with really good genetics, that has had a really hard life, and is now in a really bad way, are clones from it going to be good and healthy, or as damaged as the mother is now ?

The reason I ask is that I have this magic sativa strain that I love. Like all good sativa it grows about 3 feet in the first 6 weeks of flowering, and gives a monster trippy head high.

Due to a series of equipment malfunctions (I dont want to talk about it) all I have left of this strain is a really crap little mutant plant that was planted outdoors in mid winter to see what would happen. It was fully in flower and about 3/4 of a foot in height. Not 3-4 foot in height but 3/4 of a foot in height.

I have taken it indoors in a pot and put under 18/6 light to try and reveg it so that I can clone it and get back into growing it properly. Feed + water etc.

Are the clones going to be viable like all my old plants, or misshapen stumpy deformed monsters like the one I have now? Have I lost my magic strain?

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THE CLONES WILL BE VIABLE! At the very least, the clones from them will be almost indecipherable from the original mother. I have had this EXACT scenario, in terms of re-vegging a post flower plant, cloning a mid flower plant, and seeing seedling style veg shutes emerge from top colas. Trust me, the plant possesses no genetic defects, only growth deformities.

Your clones will take longer to root, and the growth pattern will be, shall we say, wierded out mega. Im talking about 20-30 branches possible and tons of deformed and wierdo leaves. I had a friggin insane swath of clones one time. But with fine manicuring and pruning off the odd veg growth, eventually the plants all returned to the proper pattern. I believe that the flowering horomone remains in residual traces off any clone of a flower or post flower plant. Thus as time passes the growth pattern slowly returns to normal. Like I said, in my case of attack of the clones, it took two generations until the plants grew completely naturally (close to as they would from seed). Honestly if you start with a retarded looking stem with one leaf, it has the chance of bouncing back. Ive seen alot of bouncebacks. Now... are you going to get a big yield of a little deformed plant from a little deformed clone? No. But you might get a few good nodes popping off and youll definitely eventually get that cloneable perfection of new growth.

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THE CLONES WILL BE VIABLE! At the very least, the clones from them will be almost indecipherable from the original mother.
AWESOME !

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and the growth pattern will be, shall we say, wierded out mega. Im talking about 20-30 branches possible and tons of deformed and wierdo leaves. I had a friggin insane swath of clones one time.
yup got that. where there was one crappy little flower there is now like 10 branches coming out of the 1 spot. It leaves FIM/topping for dead

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But with fine manicuring and pruning off the odd veg growth, eventually the plants all returned to the proper pattern.
Thats what i want to hear : and yes there is a ton of small veg around, its hard to see whats what and it really does look more like a bush than any other plant i have ever seen.

I wonder if this will become a new HST training strat : imagine one stalk with 15-20 branches off it.

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great thread: great post JJgrands
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here are some pics of mutated clones originally taken just one day into flowering. This is their 16th day in dirt.

















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