i use fox farms nutes for my plants and on the bottles it says "switch to fox farms big bloom and tiger bloom at first signs of flowering."

now does that mean start the bloom nutes when you first notice pre-flowers? or does it mean start the bloom nutes at the first signs of bud production?

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the earlier the better...but i usually wait on nutes until i know its fem cuz i grow from seed and thers no need to waste nutes on a male (to me anyways)

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start addding bloom ferts when you decide to flower it no earlier,dont use bloom ferts when it preflowers when ur on 18/6 or 24/0

start bloomin when u 12/12

o i meant 12/12...didnt realize the pre flower part of that thread

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Good thread but this is my first outdoor grow ... when do i know to start using them without the classic 12/12 approach ?

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prob in a few weeks is when they should start flowering outdoors

cheers dude

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I use bloom nutes one feeding before I start the 12/12 cycle. I recommend this.

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that is my problem too tommy. i've done previous indoor grows but this is my first outdoor grow and i wasn't sure when to had the bloom nutes, because i'm not going with the 12/12 strategy. 2 of my plants have female preflowers now.

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just wait a few more weeks till they start to really flower