I will have to try the LR Diesel again. Maybe it is better now. I grow SOG for a two week harvest. They don't bush out. Did your plant have a single cola or were they bush? I use 1000w lights with cooltubes, and co2. All I was able to get was .25-.5. The few limbs were popcorn. As for taste, smell and high, it wa really mixed. I don't relly trust in what friends say about yield. If it isn't in my garden I don't know for sure. I'm not calling your friends liars. I have just caught a few of mine in fibs ; ) Like I say though I will try it again.

Marijuanajoe, My heavy yielding BB had a heavy couchlock. My goal is to mix long flowering sativa's, and gain their high, taste and smell. I also want the auto flowering and yield of my LRxBB without those things so the sativa's can dominate in those areas and it makes moving forward easier with breeding.

Sorry I took away from your thread mikeNASTY13.

well iv got a question to lildiesel,
can you make couchlock indica's into a sativa "UP" like high just by harvesting early????

A plant that produces a couchlock high produces just that. That being said you can make adjustments. When Trichomes are mostly clear in the beginning of production they give the highest cerebral high, but still couchlock. Then they move to a cloudy white and that is right in the middle. Couchlock, but not as heavy as it could be. Then as they degrade they turn amber. This will be the most couchlock you will get. It is best in my opinion to harvest when most trich's are cloudy, because as the trichs degrade to amber you are sacrificing potency, but if you harvest too early when all the trichs are clear you sacrafice that last heavy bud production. It, as always, may change slightly by strain. I havn't grown them all, so I can't say it is always the same.

I'm not saying what he did isn't fuckin' amazing, lol. I really tried to come across as not being snarky or anything. I've actually given rep for the lil'Deisel's idea, breeding a LR2 version with Big Bud instead of Santa Maria (or whatever they used for LR2) . Thats a great Idea! I mean, why not hybridize the ruderalis with the largest producers that you can? Especially to insure an even better yeild when you do fineally cross it to the varieties you want to emulate. I just think that growing for low potency will never be a part of my breeding projects, lol. No offence, but I think alot of people think that way. Even if I was trying to make a LR version that I could cross to, I'd wan't the potency there, the trick is to try to make those potency genes the latent recessive ones, and the potency genes of the cross the dominant, expressive ones. You will end up with MORE of the kind of resin you want if you can find and stabilize the right pheno that still has the auto trait. That's all I was sayin. I think Lowryder should have done a Big Bud cross instead, it would have been smarter, I think. Anyway, out! I might try to do this in the future, as well. Cheers!

If you had used the more resinous, it is possible, with enough genetic selection, that you could cross it with your sativa, and the particular resin type of the sativa would be the one in production, but with the heavy production levels of the big bud. It is all about being able to grow aout enough to get some genetic selection. With enough genetic selection anything is possible.

I understand what you are trying to do, and I still think it would be possible to get a pheno with super high resin production (from the LR x Big Bud father) of the Sativa type resin you want(from your cross), even if the father had a couchlock feeling. It all depends on your genetic selection and how many phenotypes you can coax out, and breed several different ones together Who knows, you might have still been able to get what you wanted with an even higher resin content. Alot is possible with enough genetic selection. I'm not dissing what you did in any way. It was also a really smart idea to use big bud as the cross, Lowryder should gave done that in the first place, lol. out

maijuanajoe, I wasn't insulted man. No big deal. I was just explaining why I wanted to lose the smell, high and taste. Breeding with LR is diferent than normal breeding. No clones mean you have to be able to see which seeds from which plant you want to keep. By not having the smell, high and taste I can see which have been overpowerd by what I am crossing them with, and by watching how early they start to flower and how large the yield is I am able to see which plants with seeds are right fore further breeding and back xing.

i think i may have confused lil diesel with marijuanajoe. anyway, i think anybody that takes the time to crossbreed to find what they like are successful. i'm tired of the pot head stereotype that they're all lazy and good for nothing. obviously if you take the time to try and "create" a strain that you personally will enjoy, you've got some brains. keep up the good work people. and don't worry about jacking my thread, as long as it gets the juices flowing, i'm happy

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likin the idea of lowryder based strains lately do you flower 24/0 with your hps or how,d ya grow em wouldnt they finish sooner under constant light rather than half time lights? dunno cos never done an autoflower. but would like to. anyone?

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Lowryder flowers best in 20/4 in my opinion. 24 hrs a day tends to make them grow taller without much of a yield gain. I didn't really find that it finished early. Strange right? I read once that a 20/4 gave the best yield. Never really went to deep in testing it.

cool thanx

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