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Old 06-20-2008, 06:52 PM
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and i wanna know what the big dogs use.

I have upgraded my space, it is now 3x's the size. I am also upgrading my lights. Gonna have a 1k going with the 600w thats in there now.
i do wanna keep it as cheap as possible, but im gonna get everything i need upfront so...

My questions are:

1. CO2....should i go with the 20lb tank or get the generator?

2. Is a CO2 controler needed or can i get away with a injector and timer.

3. Light movers. What kind and is it really needed? As of right now i have three different stands for my lights. The lights are on a thick wooden stick and i move them around thru the day. I can also move the plants around and do so a few times a day.
Would a light mover make much of a difference than what i am doing now? I enjoy moving my lights and plants even when they are big....keeps me in touch with them and they have NEVER gotten as big as FDD monsters so the moving them isnt a prob.

4.If you had one thing about your garden you think would improve your growth/yeild....what would it be?
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:57 PM
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Answer 1. Get the bottle. Burner adds heat and is good if your room were bigger.
Answer 2. I am tring to figure this out right now 2. You don;t need a controller. You can do it with a digital timer. You have to calculate room size then times that by how many cubic feet per minute the injector is running at. Once it runs for the right amount of time the room is "charged" meaning that the co2 level is between 1500ppm and 2000ppm (you may want to get a tester to make sure) I think you should probably exhaust the co2 out once or twice a day.
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and i wanna know what the big dogs use.

I have upgraded my space, it is now 3x's the size. I am also upgrading my lights. Gonna have a 1k going with the 600w thats in there now.
i do wanna keep it as cheap as possible, but im gonna get everything i need upfront so...

My questions are:

1. CO2....should i go with the 20lb tank or get the generator?

2. Is a CO2 controler needed or can i get away with a injector and timer.

3. Light movers. What kind and is it really needed? As of right now i have three different stands for my lights. The lights are on a thick wooden stick and i move them around thru the day. I can also move the plants around and do so a few times a day.
Would a light mover make much of a difference than what i am doing now? I enjoy moving my lights and plants even when they are big....keeps me in touch with them and they have NEVER gotten as big as FDD monsters so the moving them isnt a prob.

4.If you had one thing about your garden you think would improve your growth/yeild....what would it be?
1&2 I think the generator will be more cost effective in the long run. I don't use CO2 but my coop buddy does and he goes through that stuff like water. Remember...you'll need to shut down intake and exhaust fans too so you'll have the added expense of that control work.

3. If you LIKE the work moving them then why consider a light mover.

4. More light BUT that is too costly for me. I'm running (3) 400, (1) 600, (4) 150w CFL's and all the associated fans, pumps, timers, controllers, etc. With A/C season here my utility bill is already through the roof.
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i disagree...i think your exhaust should be shut off....but your intake should stay on....put a damper on your exhaust.

i also think a controller is necessary. you can find devices to control your humidity and temps as well as co2....

those formulas can work...but are often off...not precisely accurate...
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i disagree...i think your exhaust should be shut off....but your intake should stay on....put a damper on your exhaust.

i also think a controller is necessary. you can find devices to control your humidity and temps as well as co2....

those formulas can work...but are often off...not precisely accurate...
Hey Loud....whassup? Haven't heard from you in a while.

I was just assuming that, as with most homes the leakage is unbelievable and figured he'd need to contain the CO 2 as long as possible. Thats why I don't use it. My room leaks so much it'd be throwing money away.
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yeea i know gohydro...i was about to PM you....

we need to keep in touch man....


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do you realy like c02 that much you want it too grow that much quicker,If you upgrade your lights the fucking things going to go bullistic.it just speeds the growth process,fuck bro!if you get two hid lights ,its on .and you dont use co2 inn the flowering stage. for all that shit getting the tank filled every month it just seems to me a lot of work and money just for c02,just keep air circulating in your room with a fan . just trying to save you a buck.and LB has you dialed inn if you do want c02
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:31 AM
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Thanks a ton for the info guys. Sorry i got called to work and wasnt able to check back before now.

I think im gonna go with just the injector and not the generator....jsut for heat issues and i think the room is small enough(about 10x5) that it would be overkill.

I am still debating over the controller tho....you guys brought up good points for both sides.

I have found CO2 suppliers in my area and i think this is gonna run about $200 for the CO2 setup with another $200 for the 1k light.
This is gonna be a great harvest!

If you have any more suggestions i am all ears.
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your only gonna use 1600watts for a 10x5..eather add a light or shrink that room...peace az
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trade in the CO2 for a second 1000 watter.
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