
06-13-2008, 11:13 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: um.... where do you live?
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| | thanks for the backup kochab...... I felt an argument coming (not from you)...... | 
06-13-2008, 11:17 AM
| | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the bottom of the black lagoon
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Originally Posted by ORECAL thanks for the backup kochab...... I felt an argument coming (not from you)...... |
schools out so there are lots of arguments going on here lately.
and lots of childish drama b/s too. | 
06-13-2008, 01:48 PM
|  | Dea, FBI, ATF MuthaFucker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the attic
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Originally Posted by ORECAL not only that, but hemp DOES have thc, it's just classified as under 1% thc, but it is in there............ | lol you'd have to smoke a pound before feeling a buzz   
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06-13-2008, 01:51 PM
|  | Dea, FBI, ATF MuthaFucker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the attic
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Originally Posted by kochab yep. Other wise it couldent have been the basis for lowryder cause it wouldent have been able to have the thc levels raised by cross breeding with a normal cannabis plant.
But I think that a normal crop can bee seeded by hemp so I would be very careful about where I grew around there because of severe pollination risk.
And the fact that if a chopper lands to kill all that hemp then they will find your plants. Or find your plants because they thought all that hemp was a huge crop that youve had growing all year. | Speaking of helicopters, just about an hr ago i was outside transplanting and a helicopter flew right over the tree lines, so close that it was no higher then a telephone pole. The copter looked like a single man unit. It scared the shit out of me though so i flipped them the bird and hid my plants in the garage against the wall with shit against the plants completely stacked with shit on top of the plants hiding them.
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Growing hemp as nature designed it is vital to our urgent need to reduce greenhouse gases and ensure the survival of our planet.
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06-13-2008, 02:12 PM
| | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the bottom of the black lagoon
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Originally Posted by TheGardenMan Speaking of helicopters, just about an hr ago i was outside transplanting and a helicopter flew right over the tree lines, so close that it was no higher then a telephone pole. The copter looked like a single man unit. It scared the shit out of me though so i flipped them the bird and hid my plants in the garage against the wall with shit against the plants completely stacked with shit on top of the plants hiding them. | they flew over my shit like that last week is why I said that.
faggots didnt even see my shit, but then again they never have  | 
06-13-2008, 02:36 PM
|  | HeavyMetalHippie Stoner | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East
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| | i would'nt smoke a pound of it but cut down the whole damn field and make a huge batch bubble hash you'd have to end up with a nice big chunk w/ a whole field even if it is 1%
1% of 100 lbs is 1 lb | 
06-13-2008, 03:08 PM
| | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the bottom of the black lagoon
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Originally Posted by overfiend i would'nt smoke a pound of it but cut down the whole damn field and make a huge batch bubble hash you'd have to end up with a nice big chunk w/ a whole field even if it is 1%
1% of 100 lbs is 1 lb | no, hash is made by the crystal resin parts that are on the buds and leaves of cannabis. That 1% of ruderalis is spread out in all of the plant itself.
there are no crystals on ruderalisis | 
06-14-2008, 03:52 PM
| | Ganja Smoker Pot Head | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: off the grid
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| | THC isn't spread out in different parts of the plant. It can only be found in resin glands which reside on the outside of the calyx's and surrounding sugar leaves on females, and in small amounts on the leaves around the flowers of males. If he completely dried all flowering parts of the hemp plant, it would technically be possible to grind it into a dry powder and extract THC, with either the bubble method (for hash), or the butane method (for oil). It would certainly be alot of work for very little yeild though. Alot of butane would also be required, really making not worth the effort. The bubble method would be the only remotely econimically feasable way, and even it is alot of work for very little product.
Also, it seems this needs clarification. While the term Cannabis Ruderalis can be used to describe any Hemp variety that has become wild, not all Ruderalis plants posess the auto-flowering characteristics of the Ruderalis used in the making of LR or LR2, or any hybrid for that matter. They claim to have used a Mexican ruderalis to make LR, and I've heard of auto-flowering Ruderalis coming from eastern europe as well. To my knowledge no American wild hemp cultivars have been found with this trait.
This guy should be careful and cut most of them down if it truly is a "feild," as hemp is an invasive species and can kill off regional plants because it is so well adapted to grow in almost any environment. However, those genetics could be really old and may have value simply as a variety of "Heirloom Hemp." Also, just because we have no auto-flowering cultivars YET doesn't mean there aren't some waiting to be discovered. I would watch these plants, see if you can start some of their seeds, and look for any auto-flowering plants. If you have that, you could make your own lowryders! much inbreeding and even back-crossing to the P or F1 generation would be necessary, however. Hope you have a couple years to spare, if you observe this to be possible. Anyway, just my 2 cents   
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06-14-2008, 08:17 PM
| | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the bottom of the black lagoon
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Originally Posted by marijuanajoe1982 THC isn't spread out in different parts of the plant. It can only be found in resin glands which reside on the outside of the calyx's and surrounding sugar leaves on females, and in small amounts on the leaves around the flowers of males. If he completely dried all flowering parts of the hemp plant, it would technically be possible to grind it into a dry powder and extract THC, with either the bubble method (for hash), or the butane method (for oil). It would certainly be alot of work for very little yeild though. Alot of butane would also be required, really making not worth the effort. The bubble method would be the only remotely econimically feasable way, and even it is alot of work for very little product. | bubble hash is made by removing the thc crystals off leaves and buds, hemps thc is spread throughout the plant and not concentrated in crystals that can be removed by the bubble method.
The butane would work, although like you said be totally pointless  | 
06-14-2008, 09:25 PM
| | Ganja Smoker Pot Head | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: off the grid
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| | I understand how bubble-hash is made, but you may very well be right, I have never had a hemp plant to try it out with. But in regards to THC being disctributed differently in hemp than in cannabis, I am sorry but I have to disagree. In no case that I've ever heard of is THC spread throughout a plant, wether hemp or cannabis, ruderalis or reefer. The THC is contained in resin glands, which are much more numerous on females than males, wether you are talking hemp or not. They are located on female flowers and the leaves surrounding them (most dense on calyxes), and on the leaves surrounding some male flowers in a lower concentration. I would think even on a lowly hemp or ruderalis, these glands would still be in the same place, they just dont produce enough resin to create the trichomes that we are all used to seeing. That doesn't mean they aren't there. Thats where the 1% comes from, right?
It is scientific fact that THC does not flow through the cannabis plant like tree-sap flows through a maple tree. Since this is the case, It seems the most likely place for the small amount of resin available from hemp would still be in resin glands, just like they are in marijuana. They just don't make alot, so it doesn't make that little ball on a stick that we see on marijuana. The gland is still there, just in lower number and concentration.
I figure that if you dried your flowers completely and were able to make a very fine dry powder, a very small amount of THC could be extracted with the bubble method, if you had enough screen bags, the tiny broken up peices would accumulate somewhere. That is why I included the step of powdering the dried leaves, because you couldn't get anything if you used regular bubble hash methods. This is a pointless argument though, who makes hash out of hemp? lol. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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