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this is just something ive done 2 days ago i had those bastards tryin to take my crop and i was running outa time. so i this is wat i done shaked all the leaves makining them fall to the soil then inspected eacch leaf making sure that there were nun on them oh and yes it is time consuming depending on how big your babys are then iwent outside and blew about 2'' of dirt out of the pot then moved them in a different location and havnt had not 1 of those fuckers eatin my babys oh and depending on how time consuming. u might want to shake all the leafs again to make sure nun of them stays with the plant and u might even want to check the outside of the pot but sum one told me this and it is realy kool but this is jusst if u cant afford the spray shit
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what about the eggs???? They will be back trust me.
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yea bro just found out bout that theese fuckin bastards never seen emm in my whole life and now that ma babys are here they want to be like scavenger smokers and be greedy i was thinkin bout throwin some grass in there and foolem but prolly wont work well aye holla
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Dont waste your time get rid of the plants you have. Now you need to clean the grow area. Use a bleach solution on everything. floors walls tools EVERYTHING. Then dont go in the grow with anything but a clean outfit. Spider mites are so hard to get rid of I have tried everything. Sprays predator mites you name it Hell i even used a vacuum to suck all the mites off once but it was a dumb idea and didnt help much. I eventually moved to a different house and hasn't had trouble yet. knock on wood!
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There's a fairly new pesticide you may want to try. Spinosad. It's more effective than the other stuff safe for use on marijuana plants. It's derived by fermentation of natural organisms, so it's even OMRI certified for use in organic production. It's best to avoid using it until you have to as its the newest most effective agent available and the more its used the faster a resistance will build up, but it sounds like you're there.

Spinosad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Monterey Garden Insect Spray (Spinosad)
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All the locals use Avid around here, is it really bad stuff?

I dont see it brought up too much around here.

At $400 a Quart I can see why most wont use.


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In theory Abamectin (Avid) is OK'd for agricultural use in food crop production---so it should be possible to use it safely. In application, I'd avoid it like the plague.

Have a look at this:
Fred Gardner: Pesticides Made Her Sick; Herb Got Her Well

With reference to pot growing:

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A serious organic agronomist consulted by C Notes comments, "Abamectin [the active ingredient in Avid] is called by some a "soft" pesticide because it's made by a bacterium, it's 'natural.' But just because a toxin is made by a bacterium doesn't mean it's safe for human ingestion. Occasionally people have called to ask what pesticide to use and I say, 'Absolutely no, out of the question.' There need to be cultural practices initiated up front that prevent the need for controlled materials.
"Prevention is the key, period. There are truly 'soft' materials: Soaps, oils, water pressure. There are tools to contol pests, there's no excuse to use these pesticides -it's greed, it's dumb, it's just not right."



And, of course, the price is prohibitive.

I'd try Spinosad, if you must use a pesticide stronger than pyrethrum, it's the latest and greatest. It's still toxic, but it's not as bad as Avid. Just don't use it until you have to, as the (global) mite population will eventually build up immunity. And don't use it on flowering plants, if they're anywhere near harvest. You don't want to handle or smoke pesticide as part of your harvested product.

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I dont think spinosad is toxic. Ive used it in flower with no ill effects. It is a bacteria that doesnt bother humans.
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I use a mix I make myself. It kills spider mites, aphids and even thrips. Here it is and trust me it works better than anything you are going to buy in the garden stores.
  • Take a misting water bottle that has the trigger on it.
  • Cover just the bottom of the bottle with dish soap (I use the orange anti-bacterial kind)
  • Fill 3/4 with just tap water
  • fill remaining 1/4 with white vinegar
  • shake gently, not too much though or you will have lots of bubbles, lol
  • spray all over your plants, under the leaves and the top of the soil unitl a light coating is on there (don't get it sopping wet)
  • leave on at least a few hours or over night
  • spray off all the plant ( I do this with clean water in the spray bottle)
  • bugs gone, shiny leaves.
Good luck, this does work.
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I dont think spinosad is toxic. Ive used it in flower with no ill effects. It is a bacteria that doesnt bother humans.
It has a very low toxicity, but that's not the same as non-toxic.

http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...t/65/2/276.pdf [Oxford study on Spinosad toxicity ]

Also, it's good to keep in mind that these studies aren't done with smoking/inhalation of residue or deposits in the plant tissue in mind.

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