Bee THC!!! Nowhere else to Place thread!!!??!!

twinturbochronic

twinturbochronic

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Bees make honey from the nectar of flowers, right!?, we'll get back to that Ok, on the property adjacent to my house, the farmer/ extrememly understanding and good neighbor keeps about a dozen hives of bees spread out to pollenate his orchards elsewhere and or to rent out to pollenate other places(doesnt sell the honey). It is 1 square mile of woods and corn. Near where i do my guerilla gardening, he keeps 2 or 3 beehives.

Would the Nectar produced from the Marijuana even contain THC? If i had a large enough "garden" of Blue Mystic close enough to the hives(less than 50 feet), do you think that the honey from the bees would contain marginal, or even a decent amount of thc? If so, this would be the shizznit for breakfast, or a snack at work when you cant "run to the store quick." Im looking for opinions, or even an experience with this. i know people have put marijuana in honey(one of the worlds greatest and most natural preservatives), let it set for a few days, weeks, months, then eat for a buzz.
Do you think i may be able to put the buzz in honey without putting any actual marijuana in it. Maybe the bees will be more mellow too?:peace:
 
kochab

kochab

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that was a long run around for this short and basic question

twinturbochronic said:
Do you think i may be able to put the buzz in honey without putting any actual marijuana in it. Maybe the bees will be more mellow too?:peace:
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and yes very easy i would assume ever heard of honey oil? it isnt honey at all but instead oils that have been extracted from cannabis (usually through the butane iso extraction method).
you could probably cut it down with some honey oil that hasent crystallized yet but im not sure...... i need to know a bit more about the actuall chemical content of honey to give you a yay or nay on the subject.


but as far as the bees doing it themselves, id say that there is no chance in hell of it.
 
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fdd2blk

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bees like pollen. that's what honey is made up of. pollen and bee spit. pollen contains minimal if any THC. the bees will end up seeding everything.
 
kochab

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fdd2blk said:
bees like pollen. that's what honey is made up of. pollen and bee spit. pollen contains minimal if any THC. the bees will end up seeding everything.
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and probably digesting the thc when they spit the honey into the combs. if hes using a strain that even has any thc in the pollen.
 
twinturbochronic

twinturbochronic

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I know what BHO is. Pollenation is a product of honey making, quoting wiki
Honey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
it is made from nectar. Im not talking about Butane honey oil, im talking about honey(winnie the pooh) with THC in the honey from the bees. . To do with digestion, i do not think that the bees will degrade the thc too much with their digestion, since the compounds that make THC have an acidic pH and the fluid for digestion is acidic also. It might degrade it a little, but it is possible since the bee's stomach has a low ph and honey also has a low pH of around 3.2 to 4.5.
 
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fdd2blk

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twinturbochronic said:
I know what BHO is. Pollenation is a product of honey making, quoting wiki
Honey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
it is made from nectar. Im not talking about Butane honey oil, im talking about honey(winnie the pooh) with THC in the honey from the bees. . To do with digestion, i do not think that the bees will degrade the thc too much with their digestion, since the compounds that make THC have an acidic pH and the fluid for digestion is acidic also. It might degrade it a little, but it is possible since the bee's stomach has a low ph and honey also has a low pH of around 3.2 to 4.5.
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maybe, just maybe, in a controlled environment, if you could get the bees to contact the female plants enough...... that is how pollination takes place. they could theoretically collect enough resins on their legs, if that was their main source of food........IMG_1423.jpg
 
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rkm

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your going to get the little guys stoned and they wont feel like making honey, or they get the munchies and eat all the honey. :D
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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fdd2blk said:
bees like pollen. that's what honey is made up of. pollen and bee spit. pollen contains minimal if any THC. the bees will end up seeding everything.
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Haha, common myth. First of all, this used to be a popular thread on the old OG site. Second, I keep bees so give me a few seconds to explain the whole deal.

Bees collect four main things: pollen, nectar, water, and propolis (kinda like tree sap, also called 'bee glue'). What we are mainly talking about is the nectar portion. Pollen is not used to make honey, it is stored in the hive and mixed with honey to make 'bee bread', a substance that they feed the larva (the baby bees). The nectar is what is turned into honey. Bees have a 'second stomach' that is called a crop. When a foraging bee collects nectar, it is put into it's crop kinda like being put into it's internal pocket. The lining of the crop has a compound that breaks down the nectar. Nectar contains sucrose (sugar). The enzime in the bees crob turns this compound into dextrose and levulose, with phosphoric acid (the preserving agent) as a by product of the chemical reaction. There are other inert materials in there, but they are of little important to us.

So the question has nothing to do with pollen, as this isn't in honey, it's with nectar. the real question is if you can get honey bees to pollinate marijuana plants. I'll tell you right now you can not. Bees to collect nectar from all kinds of plants, but they do not go to every type of plant. They are very specific as to the types of plants that they will pollinate and collect substances from. Nature, in turn, can be very specificly either for or against bees, depending on the plant in question. Almonds, for instance, only are polinated by honey bees, nothing else pollinates them. Apples are mainly pollinated by honey bees, but don't have to be. Sweat bees, carpenter bees, and other insects occasionally do their part. Pepper plants are not visited by honey bees. They do not provide much nectar for the bees collection needs, and likewise the pepper plant is pollinated by the wind. Marijuana plants are pollinated by the wind as well. the bees are not interested in yoru MJ plant, will nto pollinate it, and will nto try to take it's nectar. It just won't happen, sorry.

Honey is not 'bee spit' or 'bee vomit'.
 
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fdd2blk

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specialkayme said:
Haha, common myth. First of all, this used to be a popular thread on the old OG site. Second, I keep bees so give me a few seconds to explain the whole deal.

Bees collect four main things: pollen, nectar, water, and propolis (kinda like tree sap, also called 'bee glue'). What we are mainly talking about is the nectar portion. Pollen is not used to make honey, it is stored in the hive and mixed with honey to make 'bee bread', a substance that they feed the larva (the baby bees). The nectar is what is turned into honey. Bees have a 'second stomach' that is called a crop. When a foraging bee collects nectar, it is put into it's crop kinda like being put into it's internal pocket. The lining of the crop has a compound that breaks down the nectar. Nectar contains sucrose (sugar). The enzime in the bees crob turns this compound into dextrose and levulose, with phosphoric acid (the preserving agent) as a by product of the chemical reaction. There are other inert materials in there, but they are of little important to us.

So the question has nothing to do with pollen, as this isn't in honey, it's with nectar. the real question is if you can get honey bees to pollinate marijuana plants. I'll tell you right now you can not. Bees to collect nectar from all kinds of plants, but they do not go to every type of plant. They are very specific as to the types of plants that they will pollinate and collect substances from. Nature, in turn, can be very specificly either for or against bees, depending on the plant in question. Almonds, for instance, only are polinated by honey bees, nothing else pollinates them. Apples are mainly pollinated by honey bees, but don't have to be. Sweat bees, carpenter bees, and other insects occasionally do their part. Pepper plants are not visited by honey bees. They do not provide much nectar for the bees collection needs, and likewise the pepper plant is pollinated by the wind. Marijuana plants are pollinated by the wind as well. the bees are not interested in yoru marijuana plant, will nto pollinate it, and will nto try to take it's nectar. It just won't happen, sorry.

Honey is not 'bee spit' or 'bee vomit'.
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am i getting this right? nectar is used to make honey. nectar is collected and stored in the crop. the crop is like a stomach. how is this not vomit? :mrgreen::-?:confused::peace:
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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Mainly because the crop is LIKE a stomach. The crop is NOT a stomach. In order to vomit, according to dictionary.com:

to eject the contents of the stomach through the mouth; regurgitate; throw up.

the bees don't regurgitate, and the crop is separate from their digestive tract. They can not consume from it. Therefore, they are not ejecting the contents of their stomach, nor are they ejecting the contents of any part of their digestive tract. They are only emptying their internal pockets.
 
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fdd2blk

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specialkayme said:
Mainly because the crop is LIKE a stomach. The crop is NOT a stomach. In order to vomit, according to dictionary.com:

to eject the contents of the stomach through the mouth; regurgitate; throw up.

the bees don't regurgitate, and the crop is separate from their digestive tract. They can not consume from it. Therefore, they are not ejecting the contents of their stomach, nor are they ejecting the contents of any part of their digestive tract. They are only emptying their internal pockets.
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YouTube - Bill Clinton Depends on what the meaning of is is. lol:mrgreen::peace:
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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That's a bullshit quote. Bill Clinton was squirming to get out of something he and everyone else knew he was guilty of.

I, on the other hand, am correct. Ask any other beekeeper. Ask any entemologist. Ask any single person who studies insects more than as a hobby. Say "isn't it true that honey is bee vomit?" you'll get the same answer.

It's just a clearifacation of facts. You got yours wrong, I pointed it out. Don't be pissed that I called you out fdd2blk, alot of people make the same mistake. You are wrong, get over it. The world will keep spinning, I promise :)
 
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fdd2blk

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specialkayme said:
That's a bullshit quote. Bill Clinton was squirming to get out of something he and everyone else knew he was guilty of.

I, on the other hand, am correct. Ask any other beekeeper. Ask any entemologist. Ask any single person who studies insects more than as a hobby. Say "isn't it true that honey is bee vomit?" you'll get the same answer.

It's just a clearifacation of facts. You got yours wrong, I pointed it out. Don't be pissed that I called you out fdd2blk, alot of people make the same mistake. You are wrong, get over it. The world will keep spinning, I promise :)
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whoah big guy, who's pissed? i'm grateful for the knowledge. i was playing. a joke. ha ha :-|
 
twinturbochronic

twinturbochronic

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dude, this was a nice learning experience. So from what you are saying, the bees will say fuck you to the weed and run for the clover that grows in the field. Oh well, atleast i got some answers, thank you all
 
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rkm

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specialkayme said:
Haha, common myth. First of all, this used to be a popular thread on the old OG site. Second, I keep bees so give me a few seconds to explain the whole deal.

Bees collect four main things: pollen, nectar, water, and propolis (kinda like tree sap, also called 'bee glue'). What we are mainly talking about is the nectar portion. Pollen is not used to make honey, it is stored in the hive and mixed with honey to make 'bee bread', a substance that they feed the larva (the baby bees). The nectar is what is turned into honey. Bees have a 'second stomach' that is called a crop. When a foraging bee collects nectar, it is put into it's crop kinda like being put into it's internal pocket. The lining of the crop has a compound that breaks down the nectar. Nectar contains sucrose (sugar). The enzime in the bees crob turns this compound into dextrose and levulose, with phosphoric acid (the preserving agent) as a by product of the chemical reaction. There are other inert materials in there, but they are of little important to us.

So the question has nothing to do with pollen, as this isn't in honey, it's with nectar. the real question is if you can get honey bees to pollinate marijuana plants. I'll tell you right now you can not. Bees to collect nectar from all kinds of plants, but they do not go to every type of plant. They are very specific as to the types of plants that they will pollinate and collect substances from. Nature, in turn, can be very specificly either for or against bees, depending on the plant in question. Almonds, for instance, only are polinated by honey bees, nothing else pollinates them. Apples are mainly pollinated by honey bees, but don't have to be. Sweat bees, carpenter bees, and other insects occasionally do their part. Pepper plants are not visited by honey bees. They do not provide much nectar for the bees collection needs, and likewise the pepper plant is pollinated by the wind. Marijuana plants are pollinated by the wind as well. the bees are not interested in yoru marijuana plant, will nto pollinate it, and will nto try to take it's nectar. It just won't happen, sorry.

Honey is not 'bee spit' or 'bee vomit'.
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FUCK!!! Is that entomology 101, 201, 301 or 901? I did not see that coming at all. Good answer man, I don't necessarily agree 100%, but the basics are at least right on. Kudos man.. winner of my first rep ever...now how the fuck do I do that????
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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I can't neccisarily answer for ALL bees, but I can for honey bees. If I had to make an assumption, I would say that carpenter bees and bumble bees would stay away from MJ plants as well, and that sweat bees might be willing to visit them, but I'm not too sure on that. Carpenter bees and bumble bees are somewhat more unpredictable, as their social hierarchy is not as sophisticated or as organizied as honey bees, i.e. they get confused alot and do whatever they want. They are solitary instects and communal insects, not like honey bees. But that doesn't really matter because neither of them produce honey. Only honey bees produce honey. I could explain exactly what the other types of bees do if you are interested, but I don't think that's the point of this thread.

rkm .... kinda all of the above .... haha. It is the collaberated knowledge of a few different lower level, and higher level entemology courses. But there is alot more to bees than the post I put up, very facinating insects in my opinion.

And yes twinturbochronic, that is what I am saying. I'm not saying a bee will never visit your plant, he may get lost or something, but they will not forrage from them. You can get bees high though, from what I'm told. In order to calm them down you have to use a smoker and smoke the beehive ... I can explain what this does in detail if you are interested .... but anyway, most people use leaves or newspaper. A few old school beekeepers use berlap, and one beekeeper I know swears by using hemp. He claims it makes them crazy calm and they love it. I think he was trying to tell me that he once tried a little pot in there too, but I'm not too sure, and I avoided the topic as he didn't know that I smoked or anything. If you ever get the chance to catch a honey bee, toke with him, he'll enjoy it :)
 
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fdd2blk

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we had them living in a tree in our backyard for years. ended up hiring a guy to come take them away.
 
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