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Old 03-26-2008, 09:59 PM
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Bees make honey from the nectar of flowers, right!?, we'll get back to that Ok, on the property adjacent to my house, the farmer/ extrememly understanding and good neighbor keeps about a dozen hives of bees spread out to pollenate his orchards elsewhere and or to rent out to pollenate other places(doesnt sell the honey). It is 1 square mile of woods and corn. Near where i do my guerilla gardening, he keeps 2 or 3 beehives.

Would the Nectar produced from the Marijuana even contain THC? If i had a large enough "garden" of Blue Mystic close enough to the hives(less than 50 feet), do you think that the honey from the bees would contain marginal, or even a decent amount of thc? If so, this would be the shizznit for breakfast, or a snack at work when you cant "run to the store quick." Im looking for opinions, or even an experience with this. i know people have put marijuana in honey(one of the worlds greatest and most natural preservatives), let it set for a few days, weeks, months, then eat for a buzz.
Do you think i may be able to put the buzz in honey without putting any actual marijuana in it. Maybe the bees will be more mellow too?
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:36 AM
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that was a long run around for this short and basic question

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Do you think i may be able to put the buzz in honey without putting any actual marijuana in it. Maybe the bees will be more mellow too?

and yes very easy i would assume ever heard of honey oil? it isnt honey at all but instead oils that have been extracted from cannabis (usually through the butane iso extraction method).
you could probably cut it down with some honey oil that hasent crystallized yet but im not sure...... i need to know a bit more about the actuall chemical content of honey to give you a yay or nay on the subject.


but as far as the bees doing it themselves, id say that there is no chance in hell of it.
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bees like pollen. that's what honey is made up of. pollen and bee spit. pollen contains minimal if any THC. the bees will end up seeding everything.
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bees like pollen. that's what honey is made up of. pollen and bee spit. pollen contains minimal if any THC. the bees will end up seeding everything.

and probably digesting the thc when they spit the honey into the combs. if hes using a strain that even has any thc in the pollen.
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I know what BHO is. Pollenation is a product of honey making, quoting wiki
Honey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
it is made from nectar. Im not talking about Butane honey oil, im talking about honey(winnie the pooh) with THC in the honey from the bees. . To do with digestion, i do not think that the bees will degrade the thc too much with their digestion, since the compounds that make THC have an acidic pH and the fluid for digestion is acidic also. It might degrade it a little, but it is possible since the bee's stomach has a low ph and honey also has a low pH of around 3.2 to 4.5.

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I know what BHO is. Pollenation is a product of honey making, quoting wiki
Honey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
it is made from nectar. Im not talking about Butane honey oil, im talking about honey(winnie the pooh) with THC in the honey from the bees. . To do with digestion, i do not think that the bees will degrade the thc too much with their digestion, since the compounds that make THC have an acidic pH and the fluid for digestion is acidic also. It might degrade it a little, but it is possible since the bee's stomach has a low ph and honey also has a low pH of around 3.2 to 4.5.

maybe, just maybe, in a controlled environment, if you could get the bees to contact the female plants enough...... that is how pollination takes place. they could theoretically collect enough resins on their legs, if that was their main source of food........IMG_1423.jpg
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your going to get the little guys stoned and they wont feel like making honey, or they get the munchies and eat all the honey.
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bees like pollen. that's what honey is made up of. pollen and bee spit. pollen contains minimal if any THC. the bees will end up seeding everything.
Haha, common myth. First of all, this used to be a popular thread on the old OG site. Second, I keep bees so give me a few seconds to explain the whole deal.

Bees collect four main things: pollen, nectar, water, and propolis (kinda like tree sap, also called 'bee glue'). What we are mainly talking about is the nectar portion. Pollen is not used to make honey, it is stored in the hive and mixed with honey to make 'bee bread', a substance that they feed the larva (the baby bees). The nectar is what is turned into honey. Bees have a 'second stomach' that is called a crop. When a foraging bee collects nectar, it is put into it's crop kinda like being put into it's internal pocket. The lining of the crop has a compound that breaks down the nectar. Nectar contains sucrose (sugar). The enzime in the bees crob turns this compound into dextrose and levulose, with phosphoric acid (the preserving agent) as a by product of the chemical reaction. There are other inert materials in there, but they are of little important to us.

So the question has nothing to do with pollen, as this isn't in honey, it's with nectar. the real question is if you can get honey bees to pollinate marijuana plants. I'll tell you right now you can not. Bees to collect nectar from all kinds of plants, but they do not go to every type of plant. They are very specific as to the types of plants that they will pollinate and collect substances from. Nature, in turn, can be very specificly either for or against bees, depending on the plant in question. Almonds, for instance, only are polinated by honey bees, nothing else pollinates them. Apples are mainly pollinated by honey bees, but don't have to be. Sweat bees, carpenter bees, and other insects occasionally do their part. Pepper plants are not visited by honey bees. They do not provide much nectar for the bees collection needs, and likewise the pepper plant is pollinated by the wind. Marijuana plants are pollinated by the wind as well. the bees are not interested in yoru marijuana plant, will nto pollinate it, and will nto try to take it's nectar. It just won't happen, sorry.

Honey is not 'bee spit' or 'bee vomit'.
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Haha, common myth. First of all, this used to be a popular thread on the old OG site. Second, I keep bees so give me a few seconds to explain the whole deal.

Bees collect four main things: pollen, nectar, water, and propolis (kinda like tree sap, also called 'bee glue'). What we are mainly talking about is the nectar portion. Pollen is not used to make honey, it is stored in the hive and mixed with honey to make 'bee bread', a substance that they feed the larva (the baby bees). The nectar is what is turned into honey. Bees have a 'second stomach' that is called a crop. When a foraging bee collects nectar, it is put into it's crop kinda like being put into it's internal pocket. The lining of the crop has a compound that breaks down the nectar. Nectar contains sucrose (sugar). The enzime in the bees crob turns this compound into dextrose and levulose, with phosphoric acid (the preserving agent) as a by product of the chemical reaction. There are other inert materials in there, but they are of little important to us.

So the question has nothing to do with pollen, as this isn't in honey, it's with nectar. the real question is if you can get honey bees to pollinate marijuana plants. I'll tell you right now you can not. Bees to collect nectar from all kinds of plants, but they do not go to every type of plant. They are very specific as to the types of plants that they will pollinate and collect substances from. Nature, in turn, can be very specificly either for or against bees, depending on the plant in question. Almonds, for instance, only are polinated by honey bees, nothing else pollinates them. Apples are mainly pollinated by honey bees, but don't have to be. Sweat bees, carpenter bees, and other insects occasionally do their part. Pepper plants are not visited by honey bees. They do not provide much nectar for the bees collection needs, and likewise the pepper plant is pollinated by the wind. Marijuana plants are pollinated by the wind as well. the bees are not interested in yoru marijuana plant, will nto pollinate it, and will nto try to take it's nectar. It just won't happen, sorry.

Honey is not 'bee spit' or 'bee vomit'.

am i getting this right? nectar is used to make honey. nectar is collected and stored in the crop. the crop is like a stomach. how is this not vomit?
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Mainly because the crop is LIKE a stomach. The crop is NOT a stomach. In order to vomit, according to dictionary.com:

to eject the contents of the stomach through the mouth; regurgitate; throw up.

the bees don't regurgitate, and the crop is separate from their digestive tract. They can not consume from it. Therefore, they are not ejecting the contents of their stomach, nor are they ejecting the contents of any part of their digestive tract. They are only emptying their internal pockets.
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