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    I know people breed for taste flavor, height, weight. I want to breed for a cold hardy perennial plant. Has anyone tried this? I'm going to unbury my outdoor girls after harvest and dig up the crown of the plant and a smaller cut of her root mass, bag all of it and place it in the fridge, to keep it fresh from drying out. I will try to reveg next spring or maybe even indoors a couple weeks later. Im am doing this with a handful of strains. IF ANY of the plant crowns stay green enough in the fridge I might have a shot. Then of course the breeding begins. Am I crazy or has this been done? the obvious goal it to eventually get a plant that can winter over with some mulch on the crown outdoors and then wakes it self up in the spring with out help from me, aside from some possible mild root trimming. It would be awesome to plant them and then never plant again. It also might take me 15 years to accomplish lol. but shit as long as im not dead ill have time. peace guys, im off to work.
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    Definately interesting. Remember that most plants that are thought of as 'annual' are only thought of as such because that's the easiest way to grow it given the climate in a particular place.
    Not sure about the fridge idea though. Maybe better keeping them indoors in as high a temp as possible.
    The main problem I see is that when it comes to harvest, it's the nature of cannabis that the leaves die from the bottom upwards so you may not end up with enough leaves to start the new seasons growth. Also, I would imagine that each season would end up with a larger, leggier plant.
    Good luck though.
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    The fridge locks the plant up into a dormancy state, as it does with most rhizomes and even the obvious fruits and veggies we eat everyday. However, I was more so mentioning the fridge as a way to see if the plant can tolerate a "winter" under a more controlled circumstance. Leaving it in the heat might cause rot, which is something I would like to avoid. As for leggy-ness its basically a reveg and they dont really get leggy. I was going to see if I could do this WITHOUT leaves on it, and have the rootstock wake up and push out new growth, making it a perennial. Im wondering which dominant, sativa or indica , would be a better candidate. Although not every idea is a good one..Some people have the room from a nice perennial addition to their garden
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    Many scientists believe that cannabis was a perennial and just recently in the past 10K-15K years it became an annual. Interesting experiment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wristychronicles View Post
    The fridge locks the plant up into a dormancy state, as it does with most rhizomes and even the obvious fruits and veggies we eat everyday. However, I was more so mentioning the fridge as a way to see if the plant can tolerate a "winter" under a more controlled circumstance. Leaving it in the heat might cause rot, which is something I would like to avoid. As for leggy-ness its basically a reveg and they dont really get leggy. I was going to see if I could do this WITHOUT leaves on it, and have the rootstock wake up and push out new growth, making it a perennial. Im wondering which dominant, sativa or indica , would be a better candidate. Although not every idea is a good one..Some people have the room from a nice perennial addition to their garden
    The point is, as far as I'm aware, Cannabis isn't a Rhizomatous plant. It has normal roots and reproduces by seed. You need to be 're-vegging' it, not hoping it will send out an entire new plant from a root-stock. If it did, we would all be doing it. You would be better off treating it as stoloniferous and taking air-layers. Then again, better still to take cuttings whilst in veg...Hang on, we do!
    Put simply, it's just not in the plants genetic make-up to reproduce that way. Interesting idea though. I want to grow a bonsai weed plant one day (in perpetual veg) but have yet to find a variety with small enough leaves.
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    I'm only talking about line breeding for essentially 2 things, cold hardiness, and characteristics that encourage a fast and healthy reveg. Its not in the plants genetic makeup currently, that's not to say it has to stay that way. I mean shit, variegated sativa would be cool would it not? White or gold leaf margins on the fan leaves, genetic mutation is what makes most things unique. Cues have you ever tried micro prop? Once you see 30 clones emerge from a 2 inch piece of foliage it really makes you marvel at what we have to power to accomplish. vape is ready, brb
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    No, never done micro-prop. Looks like hard work! Air-layered rubber plans and clematis, plus layered and cloned many plants (including trees!) but that's about all.
    I suspect that the biggest problem you will have is that thc landrace varieties from the colder coutries tend to be low THC 'hemp'. I guess what you need to do is cross a hemp plant with a high thc plant from the equatorial regions and try and keep the high thc traits of one with the low temp traits of the other.
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    this would be a genetic coding change and would require gene transfer in a sterile environment, or..... is possible by micro grafting marijuana onto hops rootstock. good luck in a garden though.

    great experiment !
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    I wish this post was a few years older so I could ask you for some updates. It's very interesting and may be just crazy enough to work. And if it does I want a clone!

    Good luck!

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    hey pharma, im glad you're here, you my friend are a badass. I was reading some of your stuff earlier after I posted this, its refreshing and wicked cool. Im a super plant nerd with 7 acres of hops plants at my disposal, I grow them for distribution to micro brewers. I also grow pinot noir and some other really interesting plants...and Cues right on man, Ive taken cuttings from soo many plants to clone out as well as air layered kiwis and anything else that caught my eye that didn't take to rooting as well. Its obsessive once you learn to graft or learn the best plants to roots directly from cuttings. Willows are hands down the easiest clone, figs are pretty quick to clone aswell, Its all about trial and error, and learning from the inevitable mistakes. The more you know, the more ya grow
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