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    Default Pics from my 1 plant SCROG FIRE OG Flower Day 41

    Thanks to this thread this is what im working with!
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    Yo Sleezy1, those babies look great. they look very similar to my purp kush. they also stretched way above the screen. how tall above the screen were they when you switched to 12/12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleezy1 View Post
    Thanks to this thread this is what im working with!
    Looks great, what size container is she in?
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    Man, this growbox I was growing in is so damn small! I set the screen 13 inches above my 5 gallon pot. I started off doing an LED experiment, then expanded to a bigger grow. You guys can see both of them in my signature. The tallest colas are 14 inches, with the other ones at 9-10 inches. Luckily im using LED lights cuz I am like 3 inches away from the light! Trial and error

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Paulson View Post
    Yo Sleezy1, those babies look great. they look very similar to my purp kush. they also stretched way above the screen. how tall above the screen were they when you switched to 12/12?
    They were about 2 inches above the screen, switched at 70% full. Check out my full grow journal on my sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsmantoker View Post
    "The shortest point from A to B is a strait line, thus spiraling growth takes longer. Low Stress Training occurs during SCROG. Most of my plants however do get trained prior to entering the scrog. Directing branches outward will achieve uniformity at a much faster rate than the suggested image above."

    Reading through some of the early pages of this thread will introduce you to LSTing with scrog. Many cultivationists here have implemented the techniques successfully.

    It makes since just like one thread I read that described a method of topping to get rid of problems with the main cola and the other shoots getting to the screen in similar time it seems that making a bushy base at the bottom would allow your screen to rise to a much more manageable canopy to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon727272 View Post
    I know this has probably been asked and answered already... But do people use the Scrog technique outdoors? I'm concerned about height of plants and this seems like a great way to control it.
    No reply, scrog is still a big option for my girls in the ground and I had a few questions about the yield scrogging produces. Would a plant harvest a higher yield topped and LST'd, or topped and then laced through chicken wire? I'm trying to keep my plants under 3 feet tall but trying to still get a nice harvest. Thanks guys, +rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon727272 View Post
    No reply, scrog is still a big option for my girls in the ground and I had a few questions about the yield scrogging produces. Would a plant harvest a higher yield topped and LST'd, or topped and then laced through chicken wire? I'm trying to keep my plants under 3 feet tall but trying to still get a nice harvest. Thanks guys, +rep.
    It might depend on genetics... maybe some strains dont take well to any form of training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon727272 View Post
    No reply, scrog is still a big option for my girls in the ground and I had a few questions about the yield scrogging produces. Would a plant harvest a higher yield topped and LST'd, or topped and then laced through chicken wire? I'm trying to keep my plants under 3 feet tall but trying to still get a nice harvest. Thanks guys, +rep.
    Place your screen and keep working your tops outward filling your surface space (even the tops in the center of your screen). Do not however, allow the tops to remain through the screen until you are nearing the photo-period. Pull them back through, and bend them outward to a new hole during vegg. Once your plant shows signs of flowering, allow the plant to grow through. You will most likely need a secondary screen to support the weight of toppling colas above the screen. Introduce a large mesh 6" or larger; typically does well with most strains. You will love your outdoor carpet of ganja come fall! ENJOY

    Scrog is a constant form of LST (low stress training). Cannabis under stress produces "chemical hormones" called auxin. Levels of auxin can produce various results. Large robust growth rates, expedited flowering, as well as hermaphroditic results. Knowing what your strain handles helps in determining a good scrog strain. Outdoors, wind and weather play key roles in preparing plants for bearing weight of fruits by conditioning the plant in a manner that produces structural stability under those condition. SCROG outdoors can do several things for a gardener besides keep things nice and neat. Understanding how and why will give you a better idea of what to do with your outdoor crops. I scrog outdoor. And not just Cannabis!

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    Why LST Works
    One of the #1 things you need to understand about LST: auxins. If you don’t understand them, then you are just putting strings on your plant so they look like other plants in pictures.
    Auxins are plant hormones that interact with other plant hormones to form the “plant nervous system” in the most simplest terms. Auxins are used to help stimulate nearly all facets of plant growth. Auxins are used to help promote new root growth and is often part of what is used in rooting compounds or rooting hormones that are so popular in marijuana horticulture. There has also been research (in the 50s I believe) that indicates that levels of auxins also influence the sex of a marijuana plant. Some research has also indicated that levels of auxins also play a role in the ways flowers mature on a plant.
    Most of all, auxins, in marijuana plants, are known for producing adventiti ous buds along the stem and in the roots. Adventitious is sort of like it sounds: it’s the “adventurous” part of the plant that sprouts when the plant is wounded or trained. With LST, it is not as simple as: “Make more auxins. Plant grow big.”
    So why did we learn about auxins if we’re not going to be making more of them? I mean, more is good when it comes to marijuana right?! Well: no, not in this case. This part is important so pay attention: auxins are most concentrated (and synthesized) at the apical bud or the tip of the plant closest to the light. The rest of the plant has the ability to produce auxins, but the cells must be triggered to do so. Now, although auxins are hormones essential for many facets of growth, it is also an inhibiting hormone for the other buds further down the stem. This is to prevent the plant from producing buds which may compete with the apical bud.
    In other words: The plant is very happy having one bud that it tries to stretch as close as possible to its source of energy. It will do what it can to inhibit other sprouts below it from becoming that bud as it would require the plant to push those sprouts up to that level again. If you are still a bit confused, think of images of trees and picture the growth that they have in a cone-shaped fashion. They are working to push the apical bud up to the sky.
    Now that you understand what auxins are and how they are important for growth in marijuana, you can begin to understand how LST works.

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