Can anyone tell me where to find collodial silver?

piney bob

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Make it...its super easy, i have done it and it works. Store bought most likely is not strong enough.

.999 pure lilver wire on ebay, mason jar, distilled water and an old phone charger. 10 hours later you have as much as you need. instructions are all over this site.
 

Guile

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Make it... its as simple as a couple mercury dimes, a 9v battery, couple pieces of wire, and a some alligator clips... though the purity might not be laboratory grade I have never seen a study that proves it dangerous or even nonviable (though never tried myself, yet....)....
 

piney bob

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It is key to keep this stuff out of light!!! Silver is photosensitive so i wrap my spray bottle in layers of duct or electrical tape. Other than that a caveman could do it...
 

KushDog

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Just buy it from the herble shop. And yes it is the same stuff that treats dogs for parvo (that way i have it) mine is 20 ppm ,
 

Guile

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So with this stuff I can produce feminized seeds?
Will the seeds be as good as from the seed banks?
Hmmm!
I hope this does not come off wrong..... Its not meant too....

With the silver solution (its my understanding) you can treat the flowering parts of your plant that you want to exhibit male flowers.... You can collect the pollen from those male flowers and pollinate female flowers... Seeds bore by the female flowers fertilized with the hermaphroditic flowers pollen should be feminized (I believe).

I'm not trying to talk down or come off superior (god knows I'm not) just establishing well defined train of thought biased on my understandings.
 

piney bob

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There won't be a regular seed in the bunch, it's impossible. You want to spray in the first 2-3 weeks of flowering a minimum of 5 times but not much more than that. This stuff can be toxic if used in excess so treated branches might not look so good. You only need to spray one branch, any more would be a waste. As soon as you see some mature male flowers 4 weeks or so into flower you can apply the pollen from them to another plant which should be ready to receive it. I would stay away from using seeds from the plant which produces the pollen.
 

Guile

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Is it as good as gibberic acid?
From what I read concentrations of around 50ppm gibberelic acid or colloidal silver will both result in male flowers on your plant. It seems that colloidal silver is generally preferred because its effects are more localized (affecting only the aria in direct contact with the solution).

Gibberelic acid is a hormone and relatively mobile within the plant so the arias treated are unlikely to be the only ones affected. I had recently experimented with Gibberelic acid at much lower concentrations (less than half that mentioned earlier, though used in conjunction with other hormones) and experienced quite a bit of stretching leading to "airy buds". this may also occur as a consequence of using these higher concentrations on smaller exposed arias (not claiming your entire plant will hermaphrodite, I honestly don't know either way but excessive stretch seems reasonable at very least).
Its my understanding that the colloidal silver will allow the remainder of the plant (not in direct contact with it) to continue developing normally, allowing you to have both decent (seedless) buds as well as the feminized pollen you are after for your breeding project.
 

althor

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This is from Highgrade seeds, explaining their feminizing method...

We are pleased to introduce the following feminized seeds to our collection. These seeds will produce 100% female plants. These feminized seeds were grown in 50m by 30m self contained green houses where mothers are carefully monitored. At about 7 weeks they are watered with colloidal silver which ensures a stress level wherein the mothers will produce pollen sacks. After budding the pollen sacks are hand removed and freeze dried. The same seeds from the mothers are then replanted, pH balance now is controlled with acyclic acid and colloidal silver. During flowering the females are hand pollinated by the pollen previously removed. DNA analysis is done before planting at random to ensure the results are all the same and accurate. The resultant seeds are 100% female. All our femininized seeds are sold in packs of 10 seeds.



I am confused. Are they saying they let the mothers pollinate themselves, then grow the seeds out from the self-pollinated mother, then adding the pollen they took? Is that the proper way to use it? I thought you took the pollen from the mother and then used that pollen on a CLONE of the mother that has NOT self pollinated. Am I wrong?
 

Guile

Active Member
This is from Highgrade seeds, explaining their feminizing method...

We are pleased to introduce the following feminized seeds to our collection. These seeds will produce 100% female plants. These feminized seeds were grown in 50m by 30m self contained green houses where mothers are carefully monitored. At about 7 weeks they are watered with colloidal silver which ensures a stress level wherein the mothers will produce pollen sacks. After budding the pollen sacks are hand removed and freeze dried. The same seeds from the mothers are then replanted, pH balance now is controlled with acyclic acid and colloidal silver. During flowering the females are hand pollinated by the pollen previously removed. DNA analysis is done before planting at random to ensure the results are all the same and accurate. The resultant seeds are 100% female. All our femininized seeds are sold in packs of 10 seeds.



I am confused. Are they saying they let the mothers pollinate themselves, then grow the seeds out from the self-pollinated mother, then adding the pollen they took? Is that the proper way to use it? I thought you took the pollen from the mother and then used that pollen on a CLONE of the mother that has NOT self pollinated. Am I wrong?
it sounds like they are back crossing/breeding the next generation mothers with the prior generations pollen...

What I see in my head is pretty simple (though I might be wrong). They are literally hermaphroditing an entire greenhouse full of plants then harvesting both the pollen and seeds from these plants. Next rotation would be grown out using the seeds harvested from the prior cycle then as they mature are fertilized using the pollen obtained from the prior harvest (the pollen from their hermaphroditic mothers).

I'm not a breeder so I can't say that is correct, just a speculation biased on what you posted...
 
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