I Need Help. Is It Possible to Top Plants 30 Days into Flowering?

Serapis

Serapis

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I have had to deal with this situation and I speak from experience.... Why the hell would anyone cut off the main stem when 30 days into flowering? That is simply amazing to me.... I had 4 bubblegum plants that I waited to long to flower. After the initial stretch, I had very little room left to raise the lights. After about 20 days, I saw that the light was starting to harm the closer buds. All I did was pinch the stems and fold them over back into the center of the plant. It didn't take up extra room. Pinching is a lot less stressful than topping after 30 days of blooms....

And releasing auxin hormones that late in flower isn't wise... you'll encourage branching that will never fully develop and it will rob production of buds. That is why I gave the answer I did... I would never, personally top a plant that has flowered for 30 days, regardless of any of the reasons I have seen here....

kbo ca said:
You must have never been in this type of situation. I respect your opinion though. pinching or bending the stem is going to stress the plant out anyway. Sometimes space issues don't allow for a simple bend or pinch. I'm glad you haven't had to deal with this kind of situation. Good job!
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Serapis

Serapis

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And that is exactly what the poster meant I think, that 30 days in flower was way to late to start a redistribution of auxins, which will result from cutting off the apical stem. Removing the dominant stem after 30 days of flowering will only destroy the top producing bud site and encourage the nodes to form new shoots.... not what you want when flowering.

So those that read this thread, take advice from a poster with 100 posts or the posters with thousands of posts and time spent on RIU.... the choice is yours ;)

My420 said:
Here is a in detail break down of Auxins and I hope this helps you or at least gives you an idea of what to do.

I can not stress enough the importance of this word. Auxins, as defined in the science world are a type of plant growth hormone. In marijuana, they are the most import hormone when it comes to vegetative growth. In an untrained, regular marijuana plant, the auxins are most heavily distributed to the top/uppermost growth. The plant identifies this growth as its top and strives to grow it up towards the light more than the other lower growths. This is where LST comes into play. When you bend a plants top growth over, the plant identifies that it's top growth is no longer growing up, and it works to gain a new top growth. In essence, the auxins spread throughout your whole plant and this creates new growth along your nodes that have the potential to be equal to a "top bud or cola". I can also post an example and explanation of how LST is done in a simple manner.
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kbo ca

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Serapis said:
And that is exactly what the poster meant I think, that 30 days in flower was way to late to start a redistribution of auxins, which will result from cutting off the apical stem. Removing the dominant stem after 30 days of flowering will only destroy the top producing bud site and encourage the nodes to form new shoots.... not what you want when flowering.

So those that read this thread, take advice from a poster with 100 posts or the posters with thousands of posts and time spent on RIU.... the choice is yours ;)
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everyone knows the wise are the ones who talk the most.
 
My420

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kbo ca said:
yes you can top your plant. you will be losing a bud site however, all of the energy that would have gone to that bud's production will now be sent to the rest of your remaining flowers. Many people will not top a plant in flower because of personal preference. I have had to take a top off because of space issues back when i first started growing. I still had a great yield. Any rookie will tell you not to do it because they don't understand sometimes you have to make a sacrafice if the conditions call for it. They soon will learn. You are perfectly safe taking a top off of your plant at any point in time in your plants life period.
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And to this quote as you state "" Any rookie will tell you not to do it because they don't understand sometimes you have to make a sacrafice if the conditions call for it"" well any one with experience would not be in that position to have to Sacrifice their hard work for a nice yield only to cut it off because of an issue and makes Newbie comments like that. Stop mis directing people you idiot. NEVER TOP 30 days into flowering. Cut off a top and lose yield Plain and Simple!!
 
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hoagtech said:
I am glad to hear you say sorry about pouring battery acid on your plants. although it the plants you should be apologizing to.

And If you wanna dig it up. I got my mother harvest from last year still on here. But I have a good job and a responisibility to my customers to keep my store here and not shut down so I will be posting pictures of peppers and avocados until i feel like it. But hey dig it up.. Cus your plants look like leafy yellow garbage. Ill give it to you with your Lst rose buckets but go ahead and compare your scraggly garbage to my mother. here ill post a pic to feed your need though.
Once again your plants look like autumn leaves with no fruit in between them. Im dying to see them again.
And he 30 days into bloom, hes way better off cutting a top and getting his lights closer to his whole crop, or at least pull it and put under its own. But you know better. Im sure your talented though. it looks like Picaso drew your avatar. You got any tipS!? Any Tips man??
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So many stupid people on here. Hey moron when you take a pic under a HPS they look that way.. But I guess your to stupid to realize that.... Oh and BTW there were regular pics to but would not expect you to say anything about those. What a newb. LOL. Takes 4 days to post pics. LOL I do not want to see your friends plant liar. LOL
 
My420

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1oldgoat said:
My420. I appreciate the explanation of auxins, BUT, you should really give credit to the authors of your paragraph and use quotation marks.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/369528-low-stress-training-lst-guide.html
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Dude it was a paste and copy of an explanation of auxins. Could to the same thing if you google it for an explanation so why don't you try to actually give some real advice on here shut the F**K up. All you do is talk sh!t on people and try to look like you know wtf your talking about. I am glad you have no life and use all your time just trying to talk crap. Wish I had a life like that... Oh wait no I don't because I would probably kill myself. Dude try to be help full or go kill yourself LOL.....
 
My420

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Serapis said:
I have had to deal with this situation and I speak from experience.... Why the hell would anyone cut off the main stem when 30 days into flowering? That is simply amazing to me.... I had 4 bubblegum plants that I waited to long to flower. After the initial stretch, I had very little room left to raise the lights. After about 20 days, I saw that the light was starting to harm the closer buds. All I did was pinch the stems and fold them over back into the center of the plant. It didn't take up extra room. Pinching is a lot less stressful than topping after 30 days of blooms....

And releasing auxin hormones that late in flower isn't wise... you'll encourage branching that will never fully develop and it will rob production of buds. That is why I gave the answer I did... I would never, personally top a plant that has flowered for 30 days, regardless of any of the reasons I have seen here....
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I AM SOOOOO HAPPY someone on here actually has something that makes sense to say. Look at his advice and take it I think it is the best advice given on this thread. Now this person knows WTF they are talking about and must have experience because they are making sense in what they say. Just common sense to me but this persons advice I would definitely take.
 
max316420

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My420 said:
So many stupid people on here. Hey moron when you take a pic under a HPS they look that way.. But I guess your to stupid to realize that.... Oh and BTW there were regular pics to but would not expect you to say anything about those. What a newb. LOL. Takes 4 days to post pics. LOL I do not want to see your friends plant liar. LOL
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Ya and you are one of them... im about sick of you putting people down that are here to learn. Your the fucking MORON, your the fucking IDIOT and you probably cant grow worth a shit
 
hoagtech

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My420 said:
So many stupid people on here. Hey moron when you take a pic under a HPS they look that way.. But I guess your to stupid to realize that.... Oh and BTW there were regular pics to but would not expect you to say anything about those. What a newb. LOL. Takes 4 days to post pics. LOL I do not want to see your friends plant liar. LOL
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Whats is this "HPS" bulb your speaking of? Is that like a different flavor of light?

Ive never seen one of those before. But do sell these things that seem to emit light when you plug them into magical boards which have frowny faces on the wall.
 
hoagtech

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and only 5 posts to explain yourself.. You call me out when you didn't post pics yourself? But Communist never post first so I do understand
 
kbo ca

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My420 said:
And to this quote as you state "" Any rookie will tell you not to do it because they don't understand sometimes you have to make a sacrafice if the conditions call for it"" well any one with experience would not be in that position to have to Sacrifice their hard work for a nice yield only to cut it off because of an issue and makes Newbie comments like that. Stop mis directing people you idiot. NEVER TOP 30 days into flowering. Cut off a top and lose yield Plain and Simple!!
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hopefully you get laid someday, maybe that'll calm u down. Sometimes you gotta do something for the greater good. If you pull a top off your plant you aren't losing your "nice yield" . if removing one top because of height issues ruins your yield you weren't doin very good to begin with
 
Alex Kelly

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IMO I would not advise anyone to chop off there best cola. That's the one you keep for yourself!!! Have to agree with my 420 here.
 
max316420

max316420

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I'm Sorry kbo ca... I'm a noob and have no clue what i'm talking about. Thank you for schooling me


Im feelin some sarcasm in that post


And for a "noob" he sure is giving out alot of advice
 
hoagtech

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Ya I guess it wouldnt hur to give him a break unless he feels like making another comment....
CHOP!
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Do you know what a dominant stem is? Do you realize it won't be replaced when the plant is 30+ days into flowering?

I've seen you do nothing but berate others that are trying to help. Why don't you keep your insults to yourself? If you can't, you can go play else where.... get it?

You aren't even close to being right here....

kbo ca said:
hopefully you get laid someday, maybe that'll calm u down. Sometimes you gotta do something for the greater good. If you pull a top off your plant you aren't losing your "nice yield" . if removing one top because of height issues ruins your yield you weren't doin very good to begin with
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Serapis

Serapis

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I've never stated otherwise except as a joke for a fella that was using everything in his kitchen for a compost tea, including several sugars and soy sauce... I see you have 85 posts, are they all as useless as this one? And please tell us how acidic coffee grounds are good for a plant that we try to grow in neutral soil? I can understand coffee grounds on some plants that love acidic soil such as roses and azaleas. If you are going to use grounds in a tea, better up the lime in your soil repeatedly....

Thank god you are not spreading your knowledge.... :roll:

beartrapgeorge said:
7'500 posts and this guy doesnt know coffee grounds are good for cannabis lol
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