Does this means clones ARE individually unique?

tahoe58 · #1 01-03-2008, 09:00 AM

What is your interpretation of the last sentence....and what experoience has been gained by the many many many many clones you have teaken and grown up?

A Temporal Study of Cannabinoid Composition in Continual Clones of Cannabis sativa L. (Cannabaceae)

Jocelyn C. Turner, Paul G. Mahlberg, Vicki S. Lanyon, Joanna Pleszczynska
Botanical Gazette, Vol. 146, No. 1 (Mar., 1985), pp. 32-38

Abstract

Genetically and developmentally defined vegetative samples of three clones of Cannabis sativa L. were grown in a common environment and analyzed for cannabinoid production. Significant variations occurred in cannabinoid levels in each clonal population. Throughout the 2-yr study, the cannabinoid fluctuations were random rather than cyclic. Although within each clone all cannabinoids increased or decreased simultaneously, fluctuations in cannabinoid levels occurred independently from clone to clone. In addition, each clone retained its distinctive morphology and cannabinoid profile throughout the study.

fdd2blk · #2 01-03-2008, 09:06 AM

i'm gonna let you know in about 3 weeks. i have 9 cuttings. they all came from 1 branch. actually it was 1 branch that broke off outside during the summer. i cut it into 9 equal pieces and rooted them. they are 4 and 1/2 weeks in flower right now. they all appear the same genetically but they show different physical traits. some are a little shorter and fatter while some are taller and longer. not much but enough to notice.

tahoe58 · #3 01-03-2008, 09:09 AM

hey man...thanks.....think we got nuf detail to publish sumthin?....oppps...there the scientist idiot in me again....hahahahaha....thanks for adding your thoughts!

bwinn27 · #4 01-03-2008, 09:11 AM

good question

nomoretrouble · #5 01-03-2008, 10:13 AM

It's kinda been my opinion that plants are a lot like people. If you take a clone off your momma, i compare more to her giving birth rather than being cloned. The kid will share the same genetics, but it will be a unique thing. Does that make sense or am i high?

skunkushybrid · #6 01-03-2008, 10:31 AM

That makes sense.

How was the test done, exactly? I feel that each plant would need to be sectioned off and given the exact same of everything. Plants grown together will still be in different positions to the lights, and therefore will be in different environments. Also when the clones were rooted, some may have had more root than others etc etc.

My last grow were clones and I had one plant yield an ounce, and another an ounce and a half. There are a lot of variables that must be taken into consideration.

With most of us though, once the clones are rooted they do grow differently. They should all look about the same but there will be differences, sometimes drastic ones.

tahoe58 · #7 01-03-2008, 10:51 AM

hey Skunk. I have just the abstract. I have not ordered the full paper. The methodology and specific circumstances are important for sure. My thoughts in putting this forward is to maybe help better understand that clones, although very similar in many respects, are still influenced by independent and unique environmental factor even to the microscale, that will influence the individual behaviour and performance of so-called similar plants....

I guess the reality is that clones certainly provide a better opportunity for "comparision" of identifcal plants than any other approach, and for this reason, upon finding something that is highly desireable, cloning it has many many benefits.

fdd2blk · #8 01-03-2008, 10:51 AM

mine were vegged under 3 foot tubes so the light coverage was pretty even. i am flowering with a 600w in a 3 X 3 area so my lighting is pretty intense but some of the plants do shadow each other. what's weird is the ones on the outside perimeter look better than the ones directly under the light. the one in the far back corner seems to be the fullest so far.

tahoe58 · #9 01-03-2008, 10:54 AM

hmmmm....thats an interesting observation.

fdd2blk · #10 01-03-2008, 11:42 AM

my buddy does full tables. he gets 50 at a time. they all seem to grow different. i would refer to his grows but he always has at least 2 very different strains mixed together. everyone up here likes to lie about what they really have. if you order 50 and they only have 30 they just throw whatever else they got laying around in there. i no longer buy clones. well, other than 1 or 2 local strains that are clone only. and then i'm only buying 1 or 2 verified cuttings.