2 Pounds Per Light

1badmasonman

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Very interesting to say the least. I have heard of a few that have pulled it off. First your going to need a high yeilding strain. Keep in mind that most of the high yeilders are also less potent. Yoou are definatley need to go SOG or vertical coliseum setup. All of which can be done but its going to take some elbow grease. Good luck. 1BMM
 

OZUT

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Plant count also depends on your hood. I use air cooled Great Whites and comfortably fit 12 under each in 3 gallon grow bags. Mine are all topped and supercropped.

Also consider your strain. You can get something like Big Bud and get a massive yield but the high is shit, IMO...

Pump some CO2 in that room and mess around with some other strains. Also, don't neglect the roots. Bigger, cleaner roots, will give you bigger better yield and quality on top.....Get a good root system going before you flower
 

Motherhugger

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So yeah, I think two pounds per light is every grower's dream, isn't it?

I've been watching Urbangrower for the past year and I think it's certainly helped me grow better, but I'm not near the two pound goal just yet.

Watching that video, I think there's a lot of information you can use, but I think you need to just tinker a bit with the facts since your grow room is different than the one in the video. You need to work with your grow room and your style of growing.

They have amazing grow conditions at Advanced Nutrients, I'm sure. But since I have a life, I can't replicate them exactly. LOL.

Just listening to this discussion has brought up some great points though. RIU does it again for teaching.
 

bird mcbride

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I put 25, 7 day rockwool clones in a one square metre x 8"depth lava rock/clay gravel root bed(F&D) in a 2m x 2m x 8ft/high grow area. I cut and replant five every two weeks. Positive air exchange, equal or positive atmospheric pressure in the grow room, co2, air circulation, etc. all play important roles, as well as fertizer and ph. I use one 1000w/hps complemented by 360w flouresent tubing(the really cheap cool whites 4ft). I keep my sodium 4 feet above the top of the gravel in a highly reflective construction crane light bonnet.
 

pahudson

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Wow guys thank you for all the replies!! I have not been able to post because my modem burned out 3 days ago and Cogeco just got here to replace it. Anyway, this thread has tons of great information. I see that many consider CO2 to be necessary for that 2 lbs mark. Good to know. Thanks for all the responses regarding hydro, however, I'm a promix grower. I feel more comfortable with dirt. I may go with the 9 per 1000 watt light grown to 2 feet, top once and flower. I definitely need to work on CO2. Has anyone seen those buckets called CO2 boost? I may try those. Once again thank you to all who posted and if anyone else would like to chime in please feel free.
 

Uncle Ben

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Why is this bullshit? I'm not understanding the negativity?
It's chest beating without taking into consideration such factors as hood design, light received as opposed to some black/white "watts" thingie and botany, the latter being nothing more than having the experience and understanding to balance all botanical factors that go into the equation. Like I said, this is the same crap as grams/watt which is nothing more than a forum, anecdotal pretense. Then you have the baloney that stripping a plant of its leaves somehow results in more yield. It's laughable.

I am currently using 1000 watt lights and I hear lots of talk about 2 pounds per light.
That's what it is, lot's of talk. Grow some dope, or rather grow some leaves, lots of them. That will drive your production, not necessarily high light. High light is meaningless unless you understand hood design and the light saturation point of your plants. Once you've fine tuned your light saturation point, and just stay under it, you're in like Flint. ;) Same with CO2, it's meaningless unless you can monitor ppm and balance it with all the other factors. There's nothing more refreshing than, uh, fresh air.

UB
 

dlively11

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It's chest beating without taking into consideration such factors as hood design, light received as opposed to some black/white "watts" thingie and botany, the latter being nothing more than having the experience and understanding to balance all botanical factors that go into the equation. Like I said, this is the same crap as grams/watt which is nothing more than a forum, anecdotal pretense. Then you have the baloney that stripping a plant of its leaves somehow results in more yield. It's laughable.



That's what it is, lot's of talk. Grow some dope, or rather grow some leaves, lots of them. That will drive your production, not necessarily high light. High light is meaningless unless you understand hood design and the light saturation point of your plants. Once you've fine tuned your light saturation point, and just stay under it, you're in like Flint. ;) Same with CO2, it's meaningless unless you can monitor ppm and balance it with all the other factors. There's nothing more refreshing than, uh, fresh air.

UB
LOL here we go AGAIN. Poor old Uncle Ben and his old school techniques with old school yields. Too funny. Nice way to enter a thread BTW Benny Boy.....
 

reefcouple

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Give someone a few years to practice the art of growing and they can pull off 2lbs per light. But thats saying alot, there is an art and balance to growing.

For instance, give someone 2-600W digis, co2, perfect temp, good yielder (balance between quantity and quality), and did a perfect Cola grow on a 4x8.. Bingo!
 

tanon

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you need co2 to get more than 20-25 ounces out of your set up bro. That's probably what you are getting now co2 allows your temp to go up to 95 degrees without stressing your plants and will turn your measilly 20 ounce harvest into a 60 ounce harvest
 

pahudson

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It's chest beating without taking into consideration such factors as hood design, light received as opposed to some black/white "watts" thingie and botany, the latter being nothing more than having the experience and understanding to balance all botanical factors that go into the equation. Like I said, this is the same crap as grams/watt which is nothing more than a forum, anecdotal pretense. Then you have the baloney that stripping a plant of its leaves somehow results in more yield. It's laughable.



That's what it is, lot's of talk. Grow some dope, or rather grow some leaves, lots of them. That will drive your production, not necessarily high light. High light is meaningless unless you understand hood design and the light saturation point of your plants. Once you've fine tuned your light saturation point, and just stay under it, you're in like Flint. ;) Same with CO2, it's meaningless unless you can monitor ppm and balance it with all the other factors. There's nothing more refreshing than, uh, fresh air.

UB
Still not understanding coming into the thread and making the initial comment? Is 2lbs with that wattage possible? Clearly from the responses given. As for plant botany and managing the different aspects of growth, I mentioned humidity, temperature, nutrients, # of plants per light... I didn't mention the distance of the light from the canopy, but if you thought that was crucial you could have simply suggested it. You can catch more flies with honey, get my drift? Just sayin man, smoke one and chill out, offer some helpful advice because I know you are knowledgeable.
 

pahudson

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you need co2 to get more than 20-25 ounces out of your set up bro. That's probably what you are getting now co2 allows your temp to go up to 95 degrees without stressing your plants and will turn your measilly 20 ounce harvest into a 60 ounce harvest
Temperature is not an issue for me because I now use air cooled hoods which has drastically reduced my heat and keeps it very manageable. I just think that the lack of fresh air being moved through the room is leading to stagnation. I also do not want to use a propane burner that causes heat and humidity that I will then have to deal with. I really want to try those co2 boost buckets which are filled with mushroom compost and last 90 days when used in conjuction with a timer. I called the tech line and it sounds like a promising development, odorless and releases absolutely no heat. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

wowzerz

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If you are going to veg until 2' I would go with 4 per light., if going with 16 per light, veg for 1 week or so. gonna need some Co2 as well.
 

2Scoot

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Hello All,
Here are my thoughts on this topic; even if I did get 2lbs per light and told you how I did it you would never be able to recreate the same environment/growing conditions as that I had. What you should do is study up on some good old fashioned botany or spend time with some elders in a local greenhouse and "listen" to what they tell you about how they take care of thier plants and incorporate some of that into your own grows;take copious notes on everything you do and learn from your plants. Dont get caught up in all the new marketing bs, the bigger better faster scam; save your dough and buy something nice for your wife or girlfriend......that has much more mileage :)
I gotta tell you simpler is better and it will help you have consistent yeilds with less nutes and less frustration. Its a weed and it can only grow so big geneticlly, you cant force feed it, doesnt work regardless of what you read.
Learn from each of your grows and enjoy the ride; dont get caught up in the yield game, instead focus on quality. And for what its worth UB is spot on with his comments. Holler!
 

mrduke

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OP i was it my local hydro store yesterday and talking to the owner/friend and he was telling me about his new style and says he got 2+ each of the 3 times he ran this setup.
in a 4x8 tray you place a make shift pot made out of that smart pot material, like a liner for the whole tray. then fill w/ sunshine #4 and top feed AN nuts using the professional grower chart. he runs two screens over them one about a foot over the soil then another a foot from that weaving the branches through them to make one even canopy full of colas. In this setup he runs 16 plants per light and two lights per tray. just imagine a 4x8 pushing out 4 pounds every 3 months.
by the way I will be remodling my room to copy this setup once this cycle is compleate
 

dlively11

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OP i was it my local hydro store yesterday and talking to the owner/friend and he was telling me about his new style and says he got 2+ each of the 3 times he ran this setup.
in a 4x8 tray you place a make shift pot made out of that smart pot material, like a liner for the whole tray. then fill w/ sunshine #4 and top feed AN nuts using the professional grower chart. he runs two screens over them one about a foot over the soil then another a foot from that weaving the branches through them to make one even canopy full of colas. In this setup he runs 16 plants per light and two lights per tray. just imagine a 4x8 pushing out 4 pounds every 3 months.
by the way I will be remodling my room to copy this setup once this cycle is compleate
Or try and imagine 4 lbs on a 4X4 tray every 8 weeks without CO2 and using cheap powder nutes .... See my previous post =)
 

pahudson

Member
Actually I would be deathly afraid of the search function here and on most forums. They are woefully inadequate.
Which was why I said what I said. Too many opinions from people who never cropped out on a pound before but are "experts" on the subject. I am part of a bodybuilding forum where you are not allowed to post advice to people unless you are strength and physique verified to guard against the spread of incorrect training and nutrition information. It would be nice if we could have the same here, however, its not possible for various reasons.
 

pahudson

Member
Hello All,
Here are my thoughts on this topic; even if I did get 2lbs per light and told you how I did it you would never be able to recreate the same environment/growing conditions as that I had. What you should do is study up on some good old fashioned botany or spend time with some elders in a local greenhouse and "listen" to what they tell you about how they take care of thier plants and incorporate some of that into your own grows;take copious notes on everything you do and learn from your plants. Dont get caught up in all the new marketing bs, the bigger better faster scam; save your dough and buy something nice for your wife or girlfriend......that has much more mileage :)
I gotta tell you simpler is better and it will help you have consistent yeilds with less nutes and less frustration. Its a weed and it can only grow so big geneticlly, you cant force feed it, doesnt work regardless of what you read.
Learn from each of your grows and enjoy the ride; dont get caught up in the yield game, instead focus on quality. And for what its worth UB is spot on with his comments. Holler!
Ummm a few problems with your post. First, why could I not re-create your environment. Last time I checked, co2 levels are co2 levels, humidity, temperature... same deal, so therefore yes I can re-create any environment you can. Second, scientific developments happen all the time and help us to become more efficient and do better than we could have before. Athletes today are bigger and stronger than they ever have been before. Coincidence? I don't think so. This is why we research. I'm not saying that some of it isn't marketing hype but developments and breakthroughs do happen. Third, its not possible for everyone to attend a greenhouse and take notes on what some gardener does. We have access to this forum for the purpose of discussing the cultivation of marijuana and techniques associated with it. This is our opportunity to discuss what we have tried and what worked and didn't work for us individually. I personally would like to achieve 2 lbs per light. I am yet to do so, and so I started a thread asking for specifics on how to achieve this goal from those that have. Anyone else who would like to share, please do so.
 
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