Tea Tree, that's cool, did you know by hanging an HID vertically it will produce about 10% more lumens? (although you have to hang it inside the cannopy like you did to harvest the light) They'll actually last longer too.

The turntables are available now if you desire. They come in left hand and right hand turners. If you have two plants next to each other I recomend a right and a left (2 rights and two lefts work excellent in a square) so when they bump into each other they mesh and flow together not doing damage. They cost $150 each but that is nothing compared to the increase in photon yield resulting in increased harvest yield. The are very heavy duty electric turntables that can hold up to 50 lbs ballanced (rated at 20 lbs unballanced). They turn at 1 RPM which allows plants to be closer to the light without burning and provides a powerfull ally in the growth cycle.

Has anyone heard of the Calvin cycle? It's the process of the plant utilizing the stored energy between light and dark periods. Well, it was discovered that when the sun goes behind a cloud momentarilly it allows the plant to go through a small calvin cycle. I found that by rotating the plants 700 times per day it mimicks that effect without ever giving the plant a moment without light. Perfect.

(at least this is my interpretation of why my invention works better than anything else I've ever seen.)

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That's a real nice one, they are just as effecient in the $100 price range. I do recommend getting a nice one. A hand held microscope is also a great investment. Then you can see if the stomata are eating their little globs of CO2. If they are close mouthed (that's what stoma means) they are telling you something is iritating to that area specificly.

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Here's the one I have; http://www.hannainst.com/usa/prods2....FQ4hDQodNxrOpw

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High Bob,

Here's a practical application and I'll let your mind figure out the rest.
Ok, say you are using a new type of substrata or want to maximize your present system and you want to know the ideal pH level for the specific plant you are growing.
If you adjust the pH by one tenth of a percent and monitor the specific levels of active sugars in the plant you can find the perfect pH level for that plant in that strata with that nutrient base etc. Every situation is different so you can adjust accordingly. Can you tell the difference by eye between one tenth pH shift? Maybe at the end of a week you could, but by then the damage is done. But raising the Brix even 2 points can make a huge difference in yield and the response is almost immediate. The quicker you resolve an issue the less damage is done in the end which always results in higher yields. Then when you journal you work out the ultra fine details each time refining your system until after a while you wont need it unless you change something.

I've had friends think they where running the coon tune system with 5.6 ph in hydro from the veg stage (one example) and I showed them within one hour how adjusting the pH to increase the sugars resulted in a change in thier pH adjustment which resulted in double thier yield. They reward me nice.

(warning; using a Brix meter can become addictive!)

I've used one for ten years and I am telling you it is indispensable. Using a Brix (Refractometer) can also tell you the ideal time to change or increase/ decrease nutrient levels plus if you know what to look for it will tell you the perfect harvest time.

I can't believe that no one has a thread on this subject. This is the best thing you could learn to maximize any grow system.

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Many thanks for taking the time to answer my question(s); not gonna lie, it does sound a little crazy to me and somewhat pointless (in terms of a cost/benefit of my time and money vs. my perceived increase in yield), but I''ll try anything once, so I'm gonna order one.

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Bob, consider this...before I found the Brix meter I would harvest between .5 and .6 gms per month per watt of light and I thought I was bad ass. All my friends thought I was the man and followed my leads. First into hydro, then Aero, then I discovered the Refractometer. By doing extensive tests using the Brix system I discovered out of all the substratas for Hydroponics, handfed drain to waste Coco has the best response in brix levels, and each new developement gained new insight. Now, with the new equipment keeping the perfect environment and ideal computer tuning of daily changes in nutrient and pH levels I ride a wave like I've never seen before. I now believe it is possible to get better than outdoor responses out of any plant. In the last test, all the details worked out to a harvest of around 330 gms plus keif from a 4 by 4 growspace using one 160 watt plasma light and my plant turners. Years of Journalling and working out all the small details results in that kind of payoff. 1.2 gms per watt per month @ 1.75 months.
Now my friends really freak.

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P.S. before using the plasma, for the last three years we where using liquid cooled HPS in the same environment getting between 1 and 1.1 gm/watt avg. (1.2 one freaky harvest) but to nail 1.2 on the first attempt. This is so cool. It's like I was destined to find Light Emitting Plasma for the perfect Micro-Climate Growth Chambers.

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How many leafs do we have to squeez from each plant to get enough sap for a reading?

How often should we test our plants?

if the reading is low, do we increase the strengh of the rez and if it's high do we lower it?

Please give us more on this topic, I'm getting ready to order my Brixmeter. Thank You.