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Old 11-05-2009, 09:40 AM
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:54 PM
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I just found this on the net and this is pretty much exactly how I want to make mine.
http://www.octagonhydroponics.com/hy...l-systems.html
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Hydrogon-Square
This innovative vertical garden kit can be used with a 4x4 Tent. The newly designed Vertitube 3L600 accommodates three (3) 600W OR 400W bulbs and fits snugly into the vent flange in top of the tent. System also works well without tent. System shown has 48 plant sites and is compatible with all nutrient delivery systems, including Ebb and Flow, NFT, Drip and Mist systems. This is one nice hydroponic kit
3 level Hydrogon
A vertical garden system designed to accommodate 63 full canopy 18"-24" tall tomato plants
4 level Hydrogon
This vertical hydroponics system works well with lettuce varieties by providing 84 plant sites with growing area to spare in only 36 square feet of floor space.



Vertitube™ 3L1000
The Vertitube™ 3L1000 is designed to accommodate three (3) 1000w lamps. The 3L1000 is designed for use with the Hydrogon. total height with 17" base is 90 7/8"
Vertitube™ 4L600
The Vertitube 4L600 is designed to accommodate four (4) 600w lamps. Total height with 14" base is 91 7/8".
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:45 PM
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Hydrogon-Square
This innovative vertical garden kit can be used with a 4x4 Tent. The newly designed Vertitube 3L600 accommodates three (3) 600W OR 400W bulbs and fits snugly into the vent flange in top of the tent. System also works well without tent. System shown has 48 plant sites and is compatible with all nutrient delivery systems, including Ebb and Flow, NFT, Drip and Mist systems. This is one nice hydroponic kit
3 level Hydrogon
A vertical garden system designed to accommodate 63 full canopy 18"-24" tall tomato plants
4 level Hydrogon
This vertical hydroponics system works well with lettuce varieties by providing 84 plant sites with growing area to spare in only 36 square feet of floor space.



Vertitube™ 3L1000
The Vertitube™ 3L1000 is designed to accommodate three (3) 1000w lamps. The 3L1000 is designed for use with the Hydrogon. total height with 17" base is 90 7/8"
Vertitube™ 4L600
The Vertitube 4L600 is designed to accommodate four (4) 600w lamps. Total height with 14" base is 91 7/8".
ya ive seen this sick stuff. but they also charge up the ass for that 3 vert cool tube i think they charge like 700. and for the system its like extremly bank. id would just make that shit for way cheaper
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You could deffinatly make that way cheaper than they are selling it for. That seems to be the real intriguing part of the verticle grow, there is no real rocket science or special kits needed.

I am still thinking about the less lummens issue. If the 400 (or whatever) is reflected and directed down then Most of the light is being directed to a small foot print BUT if you sorround the light with plants your are in effect making more space. more space with less light, I am still trying to figure out how 50,000 lummens will produce the same when lighting 16sq feet of plants compared to say 28 sq feet (from the tubular geometry) I am really going to have to own this idea and how that doesnt cause an obstical.

I am still looking favorable towards this style I just see the issue of no more light with more space.
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I by no means plan on buying one of those the price is crazy, but the pics show what we have been discusing well. As far as the more space less light issue, it isn't more space just better use of it. Vertical exposes more plants to to same light and I think that the difference in the focused beam from a reflector over 360 degree is way more than made up for by volume of plants and each plant gets more light saturation from the side and more effective use of reflective material. Whatever you use Mylar, white paint, permaflec and etc. is directly behind each and every plant.
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I by no means plan on buying one of those the price is crazy, but the pics show what we have been discusing well. As far as the more space less light issue, it isn't more space just better use of it. Vertical exposes more plants to to same light and I think that the difference in the focused beam from a reflector over 360 degree is way more than made up for by volume of plants and each plant gets more light saturation from the side and more effective use of reflective material. Whatever you use Mylar, white paint, permaflec and etc. is directly behind each and every plant.
thank you this was my point from day one to me and many other this is why verts are better vert use 360d while hor use only 90d with a reflector even if that reflector is reflecting back the exact same power of light (which it cant maybe 25-50% if that) you could only dubble the power of the light making the power of what would cover an 180d arer packed into a 90d area - where as with a vert you have 360d area to use coming out better

and the reason i post pics of these vert systems that you can buy is to give possible idea on how to make and build them there very simple many of the systems that i have posted are so ez to revers engineer them
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wow, that looks a lot like Heaths setup. Also, it gave me the idea to make a system like heaths easier, just halo rings on top of eachother. That could be done for under $100 for a multilevel system like the one pictured.
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wow, that looks a lot like Heaths setup. Also, it gave me the idea to make a system like heaths easier, just halo rings on top of eachother. That could be done for under $100 for a multilevel system like the one pictured.
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2 things...

Firstly, it's very irritating for you all to keep saying "pervert" because you don't "perfer vertical"... the damn word is "PREFER" not perfer and so you'd be a "PREVERT" not a "pervert". Don't make a play on words if you can't even spell properly, it makes you look stupid rather than witty.

Secondly, vertical is more efficient, end of story. Unless you have a 100% efficient reflector and you are using 180 degrees of the light and reflector... then and ONLY then will you be getting the same lighting to your plants as with vertical. You'd be giving them 2x the lighting, disbursed unevenly amongst 1/2 the plants. Most bulbs with reflectors only cover about 120 degrees... with another 120 degrees being reflected downward... and another 120 degrees going onto the walls and being lost.

There is no argument, vertical DOES give lighting to plants more evenly and it DOES give more lighting directly to plants. Unless you can come up with a logical reason why not (which you can't) then stop arguing against it.
 

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