Guys, if you want to build a super easy and awesome DIY vert all you need is a bunch of 15 gal poly drums. You buld a PVC or wood rack and you make each one a DWC. Buy a commercial air pump and a small bubble disk per drum.

DWC works as good as any system out there and it is fail safe. NTF and mist systems are highly prone to failure and way to complicated. Trust me, the 15 gal drums layed on their side with about 3 plants each is exactly what you want. Plus, you can rotate them in the rack to change the angle of the growth. I would also build 4 or more seperate sections and put them on casters so you can move them around and use all sides.

And, as an added bonus, the lower plants will have to grow around the lower half of the upper drum so the branches that would be in the shaded area behind the plant will be pushed foreward into the light

Good morning friend and thanks.

I am just now getting things really started on my new grow and setup.

Here are a few pictures of my area.

My area is in a huge room and gets plenty of supplemental lighting from a south facing window.

I am using a 1000 watt HPS and a 600 watt and a 400 watt equivalent LED and good ole mylar and all are being run vertical to the Trees.

The pots are huge 25 gallon pots, but I like big indoor beasts to reveg.

Blessings,

Rev. TheNatural

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can you exsplain whats going on in this picture
is that soil in those pots or is this some type of hydro system

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I cannot explain exactly everyuthing friend,lol.

However, I grow completely organic all the way down to the worms and bugs and those hoses are oxygen being supplied straight to the roots 24hrs from an aquarium pump and they also get pure oxygen for a bit at night " Co2 is also used "......I do all kinds of little environmental things to the Trees, but it is always a natural and or organic stimuli..

Blessings,

TheNatural

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so it is soil
and the pots sit in a rez
so as to not have to keep feeding them
like a wick hydro system??

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No friend.

They are big 25 gallon pots loaded with soil and other good stuff.

The totes are just underneath them, in order to not have water spillage when watering them.

The air hoses, are just run down to the root system.

Here is how I build them in the pictures.

The dirt I use comes from the big worm bins that I build for very rich soil as I only feed my worms fruit and Veggie scraps and also some fish.

Blessings,

Rev. TheNatural

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WOW 25 gal huge

you keep these compost been in the house
do you just add outside dirt worms and vegy scraps
and do you keep a lid on that
and does it smell
how long does it take to tranfrom into dirt
and do you remove worms when you tranplant into the 25gal pots

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I am sure that they smell, lol.

However, I use big purifiers in the house for health reasons also and I cannot smell much in their room.

Allot of times I use soil from other grows to freshen the bins and sometimes fresh soil from bag, as the bins turn more into castings over time.

I use Myco-Fungi and a host of other natural things in my soil over time.

I usually build my pots with about half dirt from the worm bins and the rest with fresh bag soil.

I also use worms in my pots and other bugs from the yard to help build a live soil, that will sustain a plant indefinately as I like to re-veg allot and I use no other fertilizers of any kind; " I simply feed the worms and creatures in the soil some scraps and they feed the Trees the best and most natural way and I have many bugs, but NONE on my girls " they all know their place and that is in the soil. "

Actually, I do use some Molasses and Raw Honey at times to give the soil and girls some nice natural sugars........Molasses is great in more ways than one, but Raw honey is LOVED by all in the pots when offered.

Blessings,

Rev. TheNatural

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Below is a chart showing the amount of light (LUX) that plants receive when a given number of lumens is spread over various areas. This is a direct measurement of total light output and not based on 1 side of a bulb so it applies regardless of how the light is spread. To grow weed effectively, you need between 25,000 and 50,000 LUX. As you can see, a horizontal system does in fact lower light intensity at the plants by the same proportion as the increased area.

Therefore, the only possible benefit of a vertical system is the 5% or so that would otherwise be lost by a reflector.


Illumination Chart

Sorry, chart will not past. See it here:

http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/lighting_guide.php

If you do the calculations, a vert with a 4' diameter would require a 600W HPS for each foot of height to produce 25,000 LUX at the plants. A flat area 4' X 3' is the same surface area - about 12 sq feet. So, according to the physics of the situation which is unwavering, there is no advantage to the additional surface area of the vertical.