Hi, I am seriously interested in these lights but can't find /get any feedback from anyone w/ experience using them. They are said to produce lumens equal to a 1000w HPS/MH, or 450w LED, w/ only 300w. They produce 96% usuable light compared to HID (16%) w/ running temps only slightly higher than LED's. You can hold your hand on it and not get burned. They say it saves 80% energy and the bulb lasts 100,000 hrs w/ little degredation of lumens. The color spectrum is wide good for veg and flowering. Light wave 680-700nm. This sounds like it could produce some incredible mega grow numbers in the end for gram/watt usage. Please share if you have had any experience. I am setting up my first grow-vertical(U-shape) and expect some great things from these lights. I may have to be the guinea pig to find the answers 4 myself. The lights are pricey $$$($675) but could pay for themselves quickly. Please... help O B 1...

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It looks like they're using a type of fluorescent (with a life of 100K hours!?), but not much info from their site:
http://www.mlandglobal.com/prod_dtl.asp?id=713

There were a few posts regarding the LED lights and it was a fairly long thread, you can probably use the search feature to find it. dont worry about brand names just look for LED info as there may be a cheaper one than the M-Land

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here is one same brand and its LED

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actually reading it back says its a replacement for LED lol I am not sure what the hell they are now

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I don't think it's LED - those bulbs are tubes

Thanx for the response, but these lights are electro magnetic discharge- not LED's. They are similar to street lights but with a proper spectrum for growing.

i searched google and its a led light. I dont recommend led cause there wave lengths are much shorter and have a almost impossible time penetrating the lower branches.

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These R not LED's

its good if you are growing one plant and you have nothing to cover meaning you can place the light an inch away from the cola. The better part besides the obvious is that a true hps has a much larger coverage area. I have yet to see a led grow that made me the slightest interested.

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