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Old 09-08-2009, 08:44 PM
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My opinion is that generational cloning in plants is a viable means of extending the life of the plant. There is such a thing as genetic drift within the plant world but for our purposes the likelyhood of seeing genetic drift in one of our plants is infinitesimal. I think infestations, disease, fungus, and infection will be more of a threat to your generational program than genetic drift.
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ive heard 48 generations till they degrade, so if you get clones a guy then you dont know how manytimes thats been cloned but if you start from seed and then clone then i wouldnt worry till 40 plus generations.
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In one of the recent high times (can't remember which, they are all stacked by my toilet) they said that clones will eventually start to lose vigor and potency when cloned for extended periods of time, but I have also heard of many people holding mothers or genetics for 4+ years. All in all, I'd say you are safe for a reasonable amount of time.
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ive heard 48 generations till they degrade, so if you get clones a guy then you dont know how manytimes thats been cloned but if you start from seed and then clone then i wouldnt worry till 40 plus generations.
48? that may be the most absurd thing ive heard all day. why not 47? or 52 for that matter? might it differ by strain or environment? or might it just be bullshit?


al b fuct claims to have been cloning off clones of the same mother for 9+ yrs.

i myself have run into some problems but im pretty sure its due to my taking a few clones a week of so into flower, then taking clones from them, then possibly taking more clones just into flowering. ive run into reoccuring hermie problems due to this and need to start with fresh seeds.
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In one of the recent high times (can't remember which, they are all stacked by my toilet) they said that clones will eventually start to lose vigor and potency when cloned for extended periods of time, but I have also heard of many people holding mothers or genetics for 4+ years. All in all, I'd say you are safe for a reasonable amount of time.
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ive heard 48 generations till they degrade, so if you get clones a guy then you dont know how manytimes thats been cloned but if you start from seed and then clone then i wouldnt worry till 40 plus generations.

Thats a rediculous!!!!..............I have been cloning the same strain for over 18 yrs...the shit is still the bomb...I average 6 oz a plant

I pull starts 6 times a year ...never kept a mother plant... your looking at the 100+ generation of clone pulled ....18x6=108th gereration (clone of a clone of a clone 108 times)


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ive heard 48 generations till they degrade, so if you get clones a guy then you dont know how manytimes thats been cloned but if you start from seed and then clone then i wouldnt worry till 40 plus generations.
I've heard 300 times with no, genetic deterioration, but re-vegging mothers and taking clones in flower is quite a different story, 5 times and your yield suffers
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Thats a rediculous!!!!..............I have been cloning the same strain for over 18 yrs...the shit is still the bomb...I average 6 oz a plant

I pull starts 6 times a year ...never kept a mother plant... your looking at the 100+ generation of clone pulled ....18x6=108th gereration (clone of a clone of a clone 108 times)


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I've heard 300 times with no, genetic deterioration, but re-vegging mothers and taking clones in flower is quite a different story, 5 times and your yield suffers

300 times..... I wont see that in my lifetime ..... it took me 18 years to get to 108 times.

300 cycles of clones of clones.....thats like 50 years of growing the same strain pulling 6 different clone cycles a year
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I think that answers the question. That looks great BTW, Blueberry?

Obviously taking a clone is mainly if not completely a form of asexual mitotic propagation as opposed to a meiotic one so there is no degradation in DNA in general. Many organisms reproduce asexually, evidently plants posses this ability.
 

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