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Old 07-19-2009, 03:50 AM
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Impressive. Expensive initial investment but he claims to avg 5 oz every 8 weeks at a cost of $30 for electric and he has a very easy, simple to setup and use operation. If you can take care of house plant you can harvest the same in no more space than a stand up rubbermaid closet. He's also not running a bare bone setup. He's got 3 of the small version of the lamps running which leaves room for you to cut the cost by 1/3. You have a couple of options with the same cabinet and two lamps. One veg and one flower chambers or if you have access to good clones cheap it would be worth paying someone else to grow quality rooted stock. Either way anyone who can keep a houseplant alive could grow over an ounce a month harvesting every 8 weeks.

I liked LEDs a lot more when I still had hopes of MTBF running more like 100,000 hours but I can live with giving up half of that. I think 5 years still gives enough time to more than pay for the initial cost of the lights and then some.

Does anyone here have any experience with these lamps first hand? I don't know this guy on 420 Mag but he sounds like he's got a clue and his pic's seem to back him up easily.

I'd love to see someone who really knows what they are doing with an aero or DWC setup build a cabinet tailored to getting the most out of these lamps. I think the author sfhaze is doing a great job for such a simple setup but I think there is a lot of room to improve yields in that exact same cabinet. How much do you think a pro could yield using only those lamps and that cabinet?
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Old 07-19-2009, 06:28 AM
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Haight Solid State LED Grow Lights

Cabinet, Closet, & Grow Room Setup small stealth cabinet setup using these lights.


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Impressive. Expensive initial investment but he claims to avg 5 oz every 8 weeks at a cost of $30 for electric and he has a very easy, simple to setup and use operation. If you can take care of house plant you can harvest the same in no more space than a stand up rubbermaid closet. He's also not running a bare bone setup. He's got 3 of the small version of the lamps running which leaves room for you to cut the cost by 1/3. You have a couple of options with the same cabinet and two lamps. One veg and one flower chambers or if you have access to good clones cheap it would be worth paying someone else to grow quality rooted stock. Either way anyone who can keep a houseplant alive could grow over an ounce a month harvesting every 8 weeks.

I liked LEDs a lot more when I still had hopes of MTBF running more like 100,000 hours but I can live with giving up half of that. I think 5 years still gives enough time to more than pay for the initial cost of the lights and then some.

Does anyone here have any experience with these lamps first hand? I don't know this guy on 420 Mag but he sounds like he's got a clue and his pic's seem to back him up easily.

I'd love to see someone who really knows what they are doing with an aero or DWC setup build a cabinet tailored to getting the most out of these lamps. I think the author sfhaze is doing a great job for such a simple setup but I think there is a lot of room to improve yields in that exact same cabinet. How much do you think a pro could yield using only those lamps and that cabinet?

I k now nothing about these specifically but i would stay away just because no LEDS are really powerful enough to go from seed to yeild. The 6W LEDS are crazy large and are 6 times as strong as the ones i use for side lighting( Largest i have heard of so far) and i would replace mine with them but, but i would still get at least a 150W HPS to supplement one of hte smaller versions of these lights. If they live up to their standards a 150W HPS and The smaller of the two lights should compliment eachouther greatly
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:52 AM
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I understand what you're saying but have you checked the two grow threads using only these lamps?
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The plants in those pics are no where near 5 oz's unless you mean "wet" weight. The plants also look very stretched and spindly. If this is the best someone can do with $750.00 led's then no thanks. LED's are a great concept and Im sure at some point in time the cost will come down and the yeilds will go up. I like the fact they use hardly any electricity and produce little radiant heat. Plus, the site wants 235.00 for a Ph meter? That's should give you some idea on how bad they wanna fuck you over on the price of the lights. Greedy bastards!
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You're looking at 4 plants not 10 so no it's not 5 oz but it does look like its about 14g per plant dried. He's using the $475 version of the lamps not the more expensive one and its obviously not the best someone can do with these that's my whole point.

Some sort of aero/DWC setup with better space management I think would be a big improvement to this guys cabinet. He could deal with heat better, Co2 a SoG or Scrog with the lamp almost fixed at 14" from the grow tub could get a pound or more from one of these $475 lamps. The trick here is packing in as many bud sites as you can get into a 30x40" area and keeping them low and bushy. 8-10g popsicle sticks like the original SoG method. You don't need huge root systems to grow healthy plants look at bonsai, so if you can finish 6 inch to 1 foot plants they can focus on making bud not plant.

I'm sorry I should have said I agree this is a niche market right now its strictly for micro growers who have the money to put out up front. These are not for everyone but I think this is the first time I've been willing to say LED cannabis grows are a niche at all. Up till now it's been quite experimental. It will be for a long time but this is the first product I've seen that I believe can work and produce a decent amount of good weed for micro growers.

Is it a lot of money for 16(I think) LEDs? Damn right it is but if they can produce a pound of decent bud every 8 weeks for the next 5 years and only cost you $20 a month...do the math. They pay you eventually.
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for $475 and hes only getting 5 oz not factoring in other things. for 475 u can buy 2 600s and hit over a pound. I love LED technology and can't wait until its efficient to use, but at $500 a light we are nowhere near.
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I understand it's not about the cost of the light, it's the ease of use. The light might cost $400-$500, but so do HID's when done properly. By the time you get an air cooled hood and glass and ballasts, lamps, fans to vent, etc...

The cost of LED's can be considered much less outrageous when you factor everything in.

BUT, those plants don't impress me. That's exactly the kind of crappy plants that make me say LED's don't work for shit. Complete and utter garbage.
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for $475 and hes only getting 5 oz not factoring in other things. for 475 u can buy 2 600s and hit over a pound. I love LED technology and can't wait until its efficient to use, but at $500 a light we are nowhere near.
Sorry I'm really not trying to be a dick it just amazes me how so many people can formulate an opinion on things when they either didn't read what was said or just don't comprehend what they read.

It cost him a lot more than $475 to get 5oz a harvest in lights. He's using 3 of those. Can't believe I have to make your argument for you... :P

Like I said this is on the bleeding edge of the technology so no it's not ready for the mainstream but for the first time the numbers work. My whole point has been it can only get better from here and I think we're much closer than you realize.

Yes you can buy 2 600's and break a pound very easily. But not in the same cabinet and not without spending a lot more money to run the operation over the course of 5 years. You probably don't but you should be replacing those 600's how often? So you'd be buying 2 600 bulbs a year for 5 yrs. Call it 4 yrs to give leeway for lazy, those bulbs are fine, attitudes. That's 10 600w bulbs.

I understand your thinking, and I'm sure at this point you're right the extra weight produced would be worth the expense and effort but who really micro grows with 2 600w HID lamps?

Sorry if you think I seem a bit too excited about these but I've been waiting on this for over 15 years. I've got red led strips we pulled at the junk yard from car third brake lights to do testing with sitting behind me atm. (that was a funny story) So yeah I am sorry but I get excited about leds I've known it could work for years but this is the first time I've let myself really get excited about it. These lamps are not "it" but they prove once and for all that leds will work. No doubt they will be the way in the future.

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I understand it's not about the cost of the light, it's the ease of use. The light might cost $400-$500, but so do HID's when done properly. By the time you get an air cooled hood and glass and ballasts, lamps, fans to vent, etc...

The cost of LED's can be considered much less outrageous when you factor everything in.

BUT, those plants don't impress me. That's exactly the kind of crappy plants that make me say LED's don't work for shit. Complete and utter garbage.
It is about the cost of the light. And the ease of use, and they're green, and about the "bust" factors they eliminate, and every other factor you can think of. It all adds up that's why its really hard for people to see sometimes.

Those plants might not impress you but I bet plants grown with those lamps will when the right person gets a hold of them.
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I understand what you're saying but have you checked the two grow threads using only these lamps?
What threads are you talking about? Can you post a link? I'm very interest in the tech, and would love to set up a large grow with them. However I'm not even considering the investment until I see some concrete evidence showing substantial bud growth and density.
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What threads are you talking about? Can you post a link? I'm very interest in the tech, and would love to set up a large grow with them. However I'm not even considering the investment until I see some concrete evidence showing substantial bud growth and density.
I'm subscribed. Good thread.
First three lines of my original post are links. First to the company who makes those lamps and next two are from a grower using them on 420 mag's forums.

I don't really think leds are ready for "large grows" yet but I don't know...if you do the math the per/oz cost is REALLY cheap even though his g/actual watt used is low. And as I've said a few times already, this guys setup leaves a TON of room for improvement if you ask me.

Look at his budshots and tell me those are loose shitty ass buds. I'm fairly sure the haters here so far have done nothing but check a couple of the pics posted in one of the threads and haven't bothered to read his threads or even click a link to check a pic.
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