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Old 07-13-2009, 08:56 AM
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Default Any 1 know what strains are good & not good to top???
Does Any 1 know what strains are good & not good to top?

I have read several places that certain strains respond better to topping than others.

I also read that some strains when topped will only produce two or more smaller tops, which would have been equal to the one big top if left alone... Some strains I read when topped will produce more overall total weight.

ie... 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 7 g's (3.5 g's each top). OR 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 14 g's (7 each top)

IF ANY 1 KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE OR READING PLEASE LIST THE STRAIN & IF GOOD OR BAD TO TOP IT, SO WE ALL MAY COMPARE.

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Does Any 1 know what strains are good & not good to top?

I have read several places that certain strains respond better to topping than others.

I also read that some strains when topped will only produce two or more smaller tops, which would have been equal to the one big top if left alone... Some strains I read when topped will produce more overall total weight.

ie... 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 7 g's (3.5 g's each top). OR 1 top = 7 g's & 2 tops = 14 g's (7 each top)

IF ANY 1 KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE OR READING PLEASE LIST THE STRAIN & IF GOOD OR BAD TO TOP IT, SO WE ALL MAY COMPARE.

THANKS.....
It's probably just as dependent on he grow setup IMO but I have heard that Blueberry won't reach it's full potential unless it's topped multiple times.
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It's probably just as dependent on he grow setup IMO but I have heard that Blueberry won't reach it's full potential unless it's topped multiple times.
I don't think there is any mathematical equation to mother nature. When I go back up to NorCal and check out all my buddies grow set ups...none of them top, fim or LST. There opinion is that the strain will do the work.

They will occasionally pinch a top in order to get the side growth up a bit, but that's about it.

I just listen to them because the run a 6-10oz yield per plant on indoor. Do the math. That's a crazy average for indoor where veg time is short.
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i know from experience that a white russian is much better when left alone/not topped/ but a dutch passion euphoria respondes great to topping
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Most commercial growers don't top, LST, or FIM. They all cause significant stress (even LST) and result in a less balanced vascular system. There is a some debate over whether or not increases in yield are achieved.

In my experience, pruning, LST, and FIM create a larger quantity of smaller buds, but no more weight than their unpruned counterparts, regardless of strain.
The major upside to all pruning techniques is that they limit plant height, which is desirable if you have limited lighting.

If you have extremely powerful lighting, (i.e. 1000w/meter) then pruning has no benefit. In fact, it can even delay the production of flowering hormones.


**Note: Blueberry is one of a few strains that appears to benefit from a more branced/decentralized vascular system.
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Most commercial growers don't top, LST, or FIM. They all cause significant stress (even LST) and result in a less balanced vascular system. There is a some debate over whether or not increases in yield are achieved.

In my experience, pruning, LST, and FIM create a larger quantity of smaller buds, but no more weight than their unpruned counterparts, regardless of strain.
The major upside to all pruning techniques is that they limit plant height, which is desirable if you have limited lighting.

If you have extremely powerful lighting, (i.e. 1000w/meter) then pruning has no benefit. In fact, it can even delay the production of flowering hormones.


**Note: Blueberry is one of a few strains that appears to benefit from a more branced/decentralized vascular system.

Ummmm, FIMing and Topping are said to increase Bud production. Please see Mblaze and Uncle Ben's thread. LST/HST may cause some stress but not FIM/Topping. If you top for more than 2-4 Cola's It may not produce any significant amount more than 2-4Colas. Uncle ben was able to produce 10oz from an indoor palnt as well as Mblaze. Check out there sticky threads.
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Ummmm, FIMing and Topping are said to increase Bud production. Please see Mblaze and Uncle Ben's thread. LST/HST may cause some stress but not FIM/Topping. If you top for more than 2-4 Cola's It may not produce any significant amount more than 2-4Colas. Uncle ben was able to produce 10oz from an indoor palnt as well as Mblaze. Check out there sticky threads.
high stress training is topping/fimming. lst does not cause alot of stress. that's why it's called low stress training
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Ummmm, FIMing and Topping are said to increase Bud production. Please see Mblaze and Uncle Ben's thread. LST/HST may cause some stress but not FIM/Topping. If you top for more than 2-4 Cola's It may not produce any significant amount more than 2-4Colas. Uncle ben was able to produce 10oz from an indoor palnt as well as Mblaze. Check out there sticky threads.

Trust me -- I've read them. I have done comparative grows on the mass scale (15+ plants per class.) I'm also a botanist. FIM and Topping is very stressful -- there's no argument about that. However, some tracheophytes (higher plants, including cannabis) benefit from stress. The jury is just still out on MJ.
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Trust me -- I've read them. I have done comparative grows on the mass scale (15+ plants per class.) I'm also a botanist. FIM and Topping is very stressful -- there's no argument about that. However, some tracheophytes (higher plants, including cannabis) benefit from stress. The jury is just still out on MJ.

oh ok. Wow, i really beleived that they did not stress out the plants. hmmm. what about yield? does it increase yield? I will using Blueberry/skunk seeds...any input would be great
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oh ok. Wow, i really beleived that they did not stress out the plants. hmmm. what about yield? does it increase yield? I will using Blueberry/skunk seeds...any input would be great
man, if you have bluberry-then you know the deal already-topping 4 that is a MUST DO.4 skunk, experiment-topp some and leave the others alone.oh, and i would suggest that you should LST all the plants, cas its great in my book.
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