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Old 07-11-2009, 10:16 PM
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So I keep reading about underdeveloped root systems causing plants to fail when reaching full yield potential. Though to promote root growth, warmth in required. So my question is, if I were to water my plants with warm water, would this further promote root growth? My last harvest was disappointing, with Dutch passion’s Mazar. I used 3 gal pots, vegged to 12 inches, and flowered with a 600w hps, and I only achieved roughly between 8 to 12 grams per plant.
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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I would say that is dissapointing.I use a 400 watt and get 14-28 grams per plant but i use 5 gallon pots for more root growth.
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:14 PM
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ouch. what kind of nutes/soil are you using. thats extra low bro
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I'm using fox farm and house and garden nutrients. Yeah I'm really trying to get 24 per plant, it just doesn’t seem like the roots are utilizing the soil space available.
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I'm using fox farm and house and garden nutrients. Yeah I'm really trying to get 24 per plant, it just doesn’t seem like the roots are utilizing the soil space available.
just a few thoughts, limited root mas in soil can mostly be attributed to overwatering. Do you let your soil dry between waterings( if you don't have one I'd suggest a moisture meter) too much will stunt the root growth. Also are you cutting your soil with anything to help it drain? Something similar to mg or scotts will take as much as a week to dry to the point of watering if no additives are used. You do have drain holes I assume, bc if nit this will deff keep the roots small bc hey will always sense water below and not move downward. Soil compaction causes poor root growth, andthis goes along with adding a drainage additive like pearlite and even rocks at the bottom of the pot.
It's suggested to keep the h20 temp by 68-72 some say a little more in either direction, I can tell you that warm water will promote rootrot, so I wouldent go to high with the temps. I'd look elsware fro the limitedroot growth start with what I mentioned above, that and some lst and you should seen oz per easy
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Old 07-12-2009, 09:06 AM
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just a few thoughts, limited root mas in soil can mostly be attributed to overwatering. Do you let your soil dry between waterings( if you don't have one I'd suggest a moisture meter) too much will stunt the root growth. Also are you cutting your soil with anything to help it drain? Something similar to mg or scotts will take as much as a week to dry to the point of watering if no additives are used. You do have drain holes I assume, bc if nit this will deff keep the roots small bc hey will always sense water below and not move downward. Soil compaction causes poor root growth, andthis goes along with adding a drainage additive like pearlite and even rocks at the bottom of the pot.
It's suggested to keep the h20 temp by 68-72 some say a little more in either direction, I can tell you that warm water will promote rootrot, so I wouldent go to high with the temps. I'd look elsware fro the limitedroot growth start with what I mentioned above, that and some lst and you should seen oz per easy
Yeah I have the moisture meter, drain holes, and perlite. The soil doesn’t seem very compact at all. Can you refer a good lst guide? I've tried it once before and ended up breaking a few plants. The thing about this is the weed that I do get is pretty good, there’s just not much of it.
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Hmm iknow that I've read a couple on here, I'd actually suggest looking in the advanced section and read M blazes guide to fiming follow that and tie down the new growth to allow for more tops and bigger canopy, this will also increase the rootmass. And bigger roots gen means more fruits. Did you mention how longbyou veg for? Are you coming from clone or seed? What distance is your light and have you tries molasses? From the third week of flower to the end... Really helps pack on the size also a product like sensa spray will help to increase flower sites when used at the begining of 12 12.
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O yeah you didn't mention anything about the ph u run or the pome you start and end on, both these factors if not in check can stunt growth as well, bu really, overwatering and under veging is a sure way to get a low yield.
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I veg up to 12 inches, my PH is pretty normal though I'm in soil. I'm not too sure what "pome” is though.

Awesome, I wasn’t aware of sensei foliar spray. I haven’t been using molasses but I have been using an advanced nutrient product called sweet, which I assume is of similar nature.

I figured out how to properly lst, little research goes a long way, I plan on it with this next batch of 60

My light is a 600w hps cooltube so I generally keep the light about 18 to 24 inches away from the plants
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I veg up to 12 inches, my PH is pretty normal though I'm in soil. I'm not too sure what "pome” is though.

Awesome, I wasn’t aware of sensei foliar spray. I haven’t been using molasses but I have been using an advanced nutrient product called sweet, which I assume is of similar nature.

I figured out how to properly lst, little research goes a long way, I plan on it with this next batch of 60

My light is a 600w hps cooltube so I generally keep the light about 18 to 24 inches away from the plants
sorry that was supposed to be ppm but for some reason my iPhones smart txt changes words sometimes and i don't catch it. You say 60 what seeds clones? That's alot of plants for one light I could see 16 -24 dep on size top pots. I still want to know how long u veg? 12 in is arbitrary when it comes to time and strain. You said you are using home and garden nutes but u also have a proper nute like sweet? What exactly is in this h and g nute and what ratio of suggested dose are u using? Time will allow for more roots and that means better yields
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