On cloning can it be done a different way

remember your name

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I know traditionally people use the top4-5 inches to clone, what i wondered is can you use another part of the plant? The preflower leaves grow just like the top with the fan leaves growing out just like your plant starts out, wouldnt it grow roots too? Do i have to sacrifice the top? Couldnt i use the side instead? I'm going to try this out and see if it works unless someone here knows for sure it doesnt. Thanks
 

HAT TRICK STEVE

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it can be 3,4 5 inches, depends on how big of a clone you want of the end of any branch,... not just the top shoot on the plant,...... any new shoot,... there are people who cut 10,20 30 clones of a plant at one time,....
 

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yeah thats what i was thinking, common sense i guess but i didnt know if it was already a known thing or not, i know using the top is the strongest and best but i figured id at least try to clone this sexy bitch i got without cutting the cola
 

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awesome, i hate that all the cloning vids or instructions refer to the top of the plant and not to any shoot or bottom shoots etc. So when cloning in soil...is it basically the same as growing a plant? Or are there more specific things i should focus on? Right now i have the bottom shoot, i cut witha blade peeled back a bit of the outer layer spliced it about 1/4 inch put it in some soil watered and threw a cfl on it, good? Or is there more or a better way using soil im not buying anything else lol i just figured if i could clone i should since i already know its a girl and by the time shes done being harvested the clone should be able to start flower. My thing was i wasnt growing more than 1 at a time because for 1 plant first offence its 6months prison and i was ok with that, but im NOT ok with doing years for owning more than 1 ya get me?
 

vh13

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Side shoots can be cloned, and often have a higher success rate.

You can clone in a cup of water. Just change the water daily and make sure the area which will grow new roots is kept dark, the cup of water needs to be light proof. Lower lighting and higher ambient moisture will make the cloning process less stressful for the cutting.

Look into bubble cloners. They're an easy and very successful technique.
 

HAT TRICK STEVE

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you can clone in water but its prob the slowest way,... but dont buy any fancy cloning gels or solutions, they are mostly crap,... go to the nearest garden place and get a 3$ packet of roottone,..... heres what i do.... first when plants are young i top them anyway just to make branches for clones, but when i clone i try to laeve the top 2 for colas , but when you top little branches are ging to shoot out all over the plant, down to the dirt,.... second i dont use peat pucks,.... instead i use little peat cups the 2.5 inchers and fill them with pro mix, pearlite, worm castings mixed,.. i also mist the cups and soil with a lite mix of b-1 and maybe a couple drops of root66 in a sprayer, also use this to soak the soil down in the peat cups so im cloning into wet soil,..... then when i cut the clone i dont cut before the node,... i try to slice right through it so the end of the clone has two leafs right on the bottom of where the cut is, pull or snip the leafs off and dip in the roottone, put in the wet peat cup and press the soil in tight to hold it up and i trim all the fan leaves in half,.. then i drop this whole peat cup with clone into a 20 oz clear slurpee cup and cover with the domed lids that come with it,... put a piece of clear tape over the big hole and use a hot needle or nail to melt a couple tiny holes for just a little breathing, and if it looks like the humidity is low i can squirt a little water in,.... about 6 to 8 days later in have roots coming out of the peat pot which you can clearly see through the slurpee cup and lust lift the whole thing out and put it in dirt
 

NiceGrow!

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Clonex is totally worth it. 20$ and you get a lot. i use gel.
but if you wanna do it in water you really should get some vitamin b-12 and b-1, b-12 is most important.
you could even use dissoluble b-12 tablets like for people. i did. great results. mine were 1500 mlg i think.
it'll really help.
 

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ok well, lol...remember i'm new at this. so i took a cutting from my girl at the bottom 45d. angle with a new blade after cutting from the plant i cut just below the nodes to release the supposed air bubble, i flushed the mg soil a couple times with 7ph distilled water then pressed all remaining water out before putting it in a tiny cup i was going to use, i added less than a drop of superthrive to the water when i was flushing, poked a hole in the middle to slide the clone in and everything looked great "i want to do this in soil" So anyway i put it under a cfl and went back to look at it less than 1/2 hour later and all the leaves had bent over and under and the stem bent too i was like WTF how could that happen so fast? What did i do wrong? Maybe the clone was too weak or something?

So I ended up drying it out next to a light bulb and smoking it since it had a few pistills and OMG it was weird it tasted so good almost flowery or fruity and wasnt harsh to smoke, i have smoked leaves before but this tasted different, i didnt get high from it obviously but i didnt want it to go to waste either and was quite a pleasure to smoke, thats got me a little excited since this was a bag seed lol
 

HAT TRICK STEVE

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ph 7 is too high , should be 5.5, and it needs to be under a humid dome or something,.... you should also shave a little skin off the bottom of the clone and dip it in roottone , but any root hormone is better than nothing, and it sounds too hot,..
 

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ph 7 is too high , should be 5.5, and it needs to be under a humid dome or something,.... you should also shave a little skin off the bottom of the clone and dip it in roottone , but any root hormone is better than nothing, and it sounds too hot,..
Well the soil has dolomite lime in it so shouldnt it stabilize the ph anyway? Why is 7 too high when the whole plant has been living off 7? I dont see why it would be different so please explain. I dont have a dome lol so i though about like the top of a 2liter bottle or something, i did peel some skin back as i saw in a vid but i didnt have any rootone just superthrive and it wasnt too hot, cfls dont produce much heat and it was barely warm around the cutting. I dont get why it died so fast but it wasnt the best cutting i could of taken either. Hey i heard of using peroxide for clones and having roots within 3 days how exactly do you do that for clones? Same as i do with the plant and put it in soil or what?
 

Hemp4Victory

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I had lots of success using a simple cup of water cloning method. I used a red dixie cup filled with about an inch of regular tap water. I made sure to change the water daily. The cuttings took about 12 days to show root bumps. As soon as you can see root bumps plop them into some soil. They will explode over the next week or two. Within 3-4 weeks they will be big and healthy and ready to start flowering if you are impatient. I like to veg for at least 4-6 weeks after cloning before going to flower for nice fat plants. The cup of water is slow but very simple. Just be patient with the cuttings. They may not look so good for the first little bit. As long as it doesn't fully shrivel up and die let it be. It will take some time but it works well and is very simple. If after 2-3 weeks your cutting still hasn't rooted then you can consider throwing it out. some strains can take as long as 4 WEEKS to root. Just be patient.
 

bluetick

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Why does it HAVE to be done in soil? What is the purpose? The reason anybody clones anyways is to assure that you have females. Do as you wish and keep seeing them wilt and smoking a bong hit rather than growing ounces of good female bud. The video IS the real deal. So if you want to clone and know that is is done properly follow the video or try and decipher written directions if you like. K.I.S.S.
 

remember your name

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Why does it HAVE to be done in soil? What is the purpose? The reason anybody clones anyways is to assure that you have females. Do as you wish and keep seeing them wilt and smoking a bong hit rather than growing ounces of good female bud. The video IS the real deal. So if you want to clone and know that is is done properly follow the video or try and decipher written directions if you like. K.I.S.S.
BECAUSSSSSE stupid, soil is what i have and what i want to use so you can officially go fuck yourself with the
(K.eep I.t S.imple S.tupid). The plant im cloning off of IS a female so i dont have to assure anything and you have no idea of the amount i personally would like to grow. Yes the video is very informative if i want to go out and buy a bunch of shit to make a bunch of clones but i dont, i want 1 plant at all times possibly 2. If anyone has anything positive and helpful to add unlike this ASS, it is appreciated. =)

Heather:mrgreen:
 

remember your name

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I had lots of success using a simple cup of water cloning method. I used a red dixie cup filled with about an inch of regular tap water. I made sure to change the water daily. The cuttings took about 12 days to show root bumps. As soon as you can see root bumps plop them into some soil. They will explode over the next week or two. Within 3-4 weeks they will be big and healthy and ready to start flowering if you are impatient. I like to veg for at least 4-6 weeks after cloning before going to flower for nice fat plants. The cup of water is slow but very simple. Just be patient with the cuttings. They may not look so good for the first little bit. As long as it doesn't fully shrivel up and die let it be. It will take some time but it works well and is very simple. If after 2-3 weeks your cutting still hasn't rooted then you can consider throwing it out. some strains can take as long as 4 WEEKS to root. Just be patient.
what about using peroxide in the water? Wonder if it would be as beneficial as in soil, i'm sure it would because i know people use it for hydro operations. I have heard of people doing the same method as the cup of water but with peroxide and having root growth in 3 days, i may try that tomorrow.

Im not too concerned with how much bud i get, im happy to get any. It isnt just about the bud, its about being enlightened taking care and nurturing something from birth hell i almost dont want to harvest her because its like killing and harvesting your child obviously not to that extent lol. Its just such a wonder to watch her grow and transform. To get buds i suppose is just icing on the cake for me hence me only wanting 1 or 2 plants. Im not going to throw my whole life away growing large amounts that i dont need. Have you heard about what the feds are trying to do? Making a 5 year sentance for sensimillia buds into a 25 year sentence with a 1million dollar fine instead of a 25thousand dollar fine? Heard it on the news yesterday it was brought up over a large high potency marijuana bust in Chicago. Lame as hell.
 

bluetick

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Wow! Little girl has a big mouth. YES there is a way to produce clones from just soil. Having such a wonderful attitude will surely get you some GREAT answers. Good luck. :bigjoint:


To know the road ahead, ask those coming back.:lol:
 

staticbudz

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ph 7 is too high , should be 5.5, and it needs to be under a humid dome or something,.... you should also shave a little skin off the bottom of the clone and dip it in roottone , but any root hormone is better than nothing, and it sounds too hot,..
Dude, I run a pool at work and if the ph is under 7 we can't open... 5.5 would give a person rashes and a terrible itch. Doesn't sound like a good idea to put plants threw acid burns... just my 2 cents...

Peace and Love
 

remember your name

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Wow! Little girl has a big mouth. YES there is a way to produce clones from just soil. Having such a wonderful attitude will surely get you some GREAT answers. Good luck. :bigjoint:


To know the road ahead, ask those coming back.:lol:
Nothing that you have had to say has been helpful or constructive. Yes you're right I do get a lot of great answers and not from assholes who have nothing to offer like you. :lol:
 

jama3689

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Dude, I run a pool at work and if the ph is under 7 we can't open... 5.5 would give a person rashes and a terrible itch. Doesn't sound like a good idea to put plants threw acid burns... just my 2 cents...

Peace and Love

i run my ph from 5.3 to 6.3 in my ez cloners and my hydro system.
 
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