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Old 06-13-2009, 01:10 AM
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Default making a herme with gibberlic acid
So I have a nice plant (White Rhino) and I want to turn it herme to make some feminized seeds. I got 1gram of gibberlic acid pounder in the internet. So I guess I am going to wing it and use a random amount and see what happens. If anybody has done this and wants to comment please do. If not I will try to put some updates here.
So far I put a small amount maybe 1/40 of a gram in a few drops of rubbing alcohol and poured that in 1.5 cups of water. I took a plant out of the 12/12 room that had gotten the top half damaged and put it under 24 hours of light. It was about 3 weeks in to budding. After 3 days I sprayed the plant a few times to see if the chemical would kill it or burn the leaves. I got a small burn where the spray pooled so I think it will be ok as far as not killing the plant. I also pored a little in to the soil from my spray bottle. I intend to wait for it to reveg and send out new vegetative shoots and then start spraying it daily. After 1 week of 12/12 I was intending on using a 6/6 schedule with 2 dark time a day or possibly putting the timer on random mode for a day.

Any suggestions for making my female produce male pollen sacks would be greatly appreciated. I will spread the seeds around, it will be good for the community.
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:54 PM
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The plant is doing good and appears unharmed by the chemical so far, only the first spot I sprayed has a salt like film on it. The plant is turning toward the light nicely. Hopefully someone will have some input?
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the plant appears to be stretching big time on 20/0, which is a good sign because it is supposed to do that. I decided to spray another plant that I was going to take a bunch of clones from, because the stretching would be convenient for ripping clones, and to verify that the spray I made causes stretching.
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tips are turning yellow in the center, hopefully I did not use to much.

I switched the light cycle to 8 on 18 off and I am peaking and messing with it a lot so the light cycle is really weird. I threw another plant in there which I am not treating with chemicals to see if I get a herme with just weird light cycles.
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:17 AM
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Now I see trics on the stems?
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ohhh boy chemicals.

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You need to treat it with the gibberlic before the plant is blooming. The normal method would be to treat a plant, wait 2 weeks and treat again then put it into flowering.

**** IMPORTANT**** DO NOT SMOKE ANY PLANTS YOU HAVE TREATED WITH GIBBERLIC ACID..

Light cycle changes or another type of stress can also create a hermie. This can have problems though because if you use stress to create a hermie its children will also have the tendency to turn hermie if they encounter that type of stress.

The other option would be to use no stress or chemicals at all by just leaving that plant to grow under 12/12 an extra couple a few weeks or so. The plant not being polinated will reconize that it hasnt and it will then grow some ball sacks and attempt to polinate its self. You can then just let nature take its course and the plant should make a few seeds, or better yet save the pollen and use it to breed with other females later on down the road.
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**** IMPORTANT**** DO NOT SMOKE ANY PLANTS YOU HAVE TREATED WITH GIBBERLIC ACID..

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I was going to stress this but was beaten to it, so I'll second it.

**** IMPORTANT**** DO NOT SMOKE ANY PLANTS YOU HAVE TREATED WITH GIBBERLIC ACID..
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:23 AM
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ohhh boy chemicals.

Organic is the way bro
I agree! The weed I smoke is grown organically. The purpose of this is to produce feminized seeds. I intend to stop growing for 2 years in a year and when I start back up I want to have a big batch of feminized seeds. Which can be grown organically. For me organic is more of a scientific/health thing for me. I care what I put in my body. Organic is not a religious thing for me.


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You need to treat it with the gibberlic before the plant is blooming. The normal method would be to treat a plant, wait 2 weeks and treat again then put it into flowering.
Thanks! I have not gotten any solid advice before you on this.

I did put it under 24 hours of light for about 10 days thinking it would re-veg. It looked like it had re-veged since it was only 2 weeks in to 12/12.
I was concerned that this plant had already expressed its sex actually, but the thing is this plant has big pre-flowers so it expresses sex before flowering. So I thought WTF. i might as well try with it now. I chose this plant because as I was packing my plants in the top of this plant got caught on another pot and the top of the plant was under a pot for a few days and the cola was a goner. I decided this plant was healthy enough for a few male sac's but not a huge amount of bud.

Anyhow, what is your opinion. Re-veg this plant now for longer, or put a new clone in there? I am about 3 weeks out before I have a new clone ready.


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**** IMPORTANT**** DO NOT SMOKE ANY PLANTS YOU HAVE TREATED WITH GIBBERLIC ACID..
oh, yea! I would not do that. But there is some product out there which is meant to make your buds bigger with gibberlic acid in it. So I guess some people do.

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Light cycle changes or another type of stress can also create a hermie. This can have problems though because if you use stress to create a hermie its children will also have the tendency to turn hermie if they encounter that type of stress.
Yes I do understand this problem, I like the gibberlic acid solution as it does not lead to genetics that tend to go hermie. But I don't actually know what I am doing.


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The other option would be to use no stress or chemicals at all by just leaving that plant to grow under 12/12 an extra couple a few weeks or so. The plant not being polinated will reconize that it hasnt and it will then grow some ball sacks and attempt to polinate its self. You can then just let nature take its course and the plant should make a few seeds, or better yet save the pollen and use it to breed with other females later on down the road.
Tried it. Maybe it works for some strains, but not the ones I grow. An extra month in there after all the hairs turn red and no pollen sac.


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I was going to stress this but was beaten to it, so I'll second it.

**** IMPORTANT**** DO NOT SMOKE ANY PLANTS YOU HAVE TREATED WITH GIBBERLIC ACID..
That is what people say. I don't like to consume chemicals. I did think it was intresting that I saw trics on the stems from this chemical. If this stuff does encourage resin production it is not unlikely that a lot of commercial bud has the stuff on it. I guess they use this stuff on seedless grapes.

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giberellic acid is a hormone.... it makes the plant stretch if you treat it and have levels of GA beyond the amount thats naturally produced. so if you flush it correctly you can smoke it.

personally, i only use GA to germinate seeds. i have a GA inhibitor i'm dying to test out (paclobutrazol)
 

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