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Old 07-17-2009, 03:44 PM
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Wow ebay how funny. cool. well I have no experience with GA3, but i wouldn't interduce the hormone until the plant is already flowering. for about a week or so, wait a couple of weeks and do it again. I wouldn't use it during vegitive growth.
If you read through this whole thread there is another dude that has done it before. He told me, one dose in veg then wait 2 weeks, another dose and go to 12/2.

Have you done this before? Know a different way?
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Old 07-18-2009, 02:01 PM
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giberellic acid is a hormone.... it makes the plant stretch if you treat it and have levels of GA beyond the amount thats naturally produced. so if you flush it correctly you can smoke it.

personally, i only use GA to germinate seeds. i have a GA inhibitor i'm dying to test out (paclobutrazol)

Bonza Bud has paclobutrazol in it i think from memory. ? its used to stop streching shorten nodes nd create more bud sites. well its suppossed to.

i got GA3 aswell not sure best time and way to use, anyone with experience please message me! Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 07-18-2009, 04:24 PM
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Bonza Bud has paclobutrazol in it i think from memory. ? its used to stop streching shorten nodes nd create more bud sites. well its suppossed to.
It makes sense that that could boost yield, but it would most definably be chem-bud.

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i got GA3 aswell not sure best time and way to use, anyone with experience please message me! Any help would be appreciated.

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I was kind of writing this thread as a sort of grow journal about using gibberlic acid to make a herme and then feminized seeds. This is why the first 6 or 7 posts are from me. I have been putting updates and was hoping someone like you could use it as a guide. While I dont really have much experience this experiment is basically my first experience. So when I am done I guess I will have some experience to share with you.

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My patches are outdoors and within the next two weeks all of my plants will have shown their sex. I bought some GA3 and some Growtonic from Super Grow and i'm planning to use the GA to feminise some seeds, and I'm hoping the Growtonic will increase my yields. Does anyone know what PPM i should use on the tonic and the GA3? And how many times can i spray my plants???

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My patches are outdoors and within the next two weeks all of my plants will have shown their sex. I bought some GA3 and some Growtonic from Super Grow and i'm planning to use the GA to feminise some seeds, and I'm hoping the Growtonic will increase my yields. Does anyone know what PPM i should use on the tonic and the GA3? And how many times can i spray my plants???
The GA3 produces feminized seeds not by spraying the seeds! You do it by spraying a female plant and making it produce male pollen sacks, then using that pollen to make seeds which will be feminized. Spraying GA3 on seeds will NOT feminize them, that would be too easy.
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yeah i know i cant spray the seeds.. lol i've just heard several different dosages and i'm wondering what my sure fire bet is. i'm going to spray my best female tonight and i'm probably gonna go with 150 ppm... but i've also heard to use 600ppm any suggestions????
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yeah i know i cant spray the seeds.. lol
sorry to misunderstand you. Whew good thing you are not an idiot after all. I was worried, you know.

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i've just heard several different dosages and i'm wondering what my sure fire bet is. i'm going to spray my best female tonight and i'm probably gonna go with 150 ppm... but i've also heard to use 600ppm any suggestions????
Well I have heard the ppm does not matter too much. Something like 75 to 700 is the range. I have read that some more precise dose will turn the plant to 100% male in its expression. At very high levels the plant goes totally herme. I also know that doses that are way too high will kill the plant.

I actually did not have any good way of determining ppm. I got 1 gram of the stuff in a small vial. The vial was made to stick a syringe needle in it like injectable drugs would be in. I did not have the syringe or any precise scale to work with. So with out a good way of measuring the GA I had to wing it. I just did one sprinkle in a cup and a half of water. I just tipped the open vial of GA over a cup and taped it until a little circle of GA came out. My guess is it was 20 to 50mg, or a bit less than 1 tenth of the 1 gram bottle. I dissolved that in a few drops of rubbing alcohol, and put that in a spray bottle with 1.5 cups of water.

The thing I found once I started using the stuff if you control the dose a lot by just how much you spray. My spray bottle does not coved the entire plant in 1 spray. I could hold it sort of far and do it in 2 sprays, or hold it closer and it would take 7 or 8 sprays. So the actual dose the plant gets can vary a lot depending on how you spray it and what kind of spray bottle you have (mine is small). The first plant got about 30 sprays and I killed it. The other plant got 3 sprays, 3 weeks ago and 3 more 1 week ago when it went in to 12/12. I am thinking that you probably need to spray enough to get massive stretching but not so much you kill it. My plant is starting to form buds, I see some female hairs growing out of some badly deformed buds and can not spot any male sacs for sure yet. I am thinking in 1 week I will know for sure.
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My patches are outdoors and within the next two weeks all of my plants will have shown their sex. I bought some GA3 and some Growtonic from Super Grow and i'm planning to use the GA to feminise some seeds, and I'm hoping the Growtonic will increase my yields. Does anyone know what PPM i should use on the tonic and the GA3? And how many times can i spray my plants???
hmm, growtonic is GA inhibitor no? I dont understand why you would use it outdoor, I though the whole idea was to stop stretching so more of the buds would be close to the light, and to be able to veg longer without outgrowing your light. Is there some aspect to the growtonic that I do not understand?
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i'm an outdoor grower.. I couldnt grow anything using lights.. never tried it and dont wanna start.. too scared of the indoor operations. I'm wanting to increase my yields with Super Grow's Plant Tonic on all of my plants, except the female that i'm wanting to turn herme. I sprayed her last night with 150 ppm probably 7 sqirts.. enough to mist the whole plant pretty good. I've read that i need to do this every day for 5 days...and i've heard that it reallydoesnt matter how many times you use it as long as your plant starts looking like shit then you can stop applying.. Im probably gonna do the 5 day treatment tho, but i wont spray her as much tonight.. just a couple sprays like you did. she's already been flowering for a week... hopefully its not to late to start, i'll make her grow til the end of september regardless thanks for the help and keep tellin me what your learning and i'll do the same
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i'm an outdoor grower.. I couldnt grow anything using lights.. never tried it and dont wanna start.. too scared of the indoor operations. I'm wanting to increase my yields with Super Grow's Plant Tonic on all of my plants, except the female that i'm wanting to turn herme. I sprayed her last night with 150 ppm probably 7 sqirts.. enough to mist the whole plant pretty good. I've read that i need to do this every day for 5 days...and i've heard that it reallydoesnt matter how many times you use it as long as your plant starts looking like shit then you can stop applying.. Im probably gonna do the 5 day treatment tho, but i wont spray her as much tonight.. just a couple sprays like you did. she's already been flowering for a week... hopefully its not to late to start, i'll make her grow til the end of september regardless thanks for the help and keep tellin me what your learning and i'll do the same
You should leave one of your plants as a control plant, so you can tell the effect of the growtonic. Either way please do post an update as to what ends up happening.

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