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Old 07-04-2009, 07:49 PM
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no reason in particular i still have some the ga mines a pre mixed product. the silver is just easy to make and seems to work and there is no stretching with silver or any toxicity even though the ga is safe if basic precautions are used.
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quick update:
the new plant is showing big time stretching and has been in the 12/12 room for a few days. I plan to isolate it in a private 12/12 room in about 10 days. The leaves are a little yellowish so hopefully this one wont stretch itself to death like the last one.
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that stuff is poison. Read up on light stress to induce seed production. i believe it is called roderalization.
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Anytime stress is utilized as a means of pollen production the ultimate result is damaged genetics most common results are High hermi populations as well as degraded potency and plant vigor.
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naturally herm it with lighting
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naturally herm it with lighting
Thats not natural the change in light cycles Causes a stress mutation; A hermie. The only way that genetic stability is maintained is to interduce Hormones at certain intervals of the plants life cycles manipulating placement of genetic profile.
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Thats not natural the change in light cycles Causes a stress mutation; A hermie. The only way that genetic stability is maintained is to interduce Hormones at certain intervals of the plants life cycles manipulating placement of genetic profile.
which is why am am trying this method!
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which is why am am trying this method!
Indeed my friend, where did you obtain GA3. I was under the impression one must obtain a DEA release form and a specified lab.
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Anytime stress is utilized as a means of pollen production the ultimate result is damaged genetics most common results are High hermi populations as well as degraded potency and plant vigor.
Earlier in this thread I was considering other methods - light stress and/or rodelization(sp?) and after getting comments from others I decided to stick with the GA solution.

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have you done this yourself with good results?


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Indeed my friend, where did you obtain GA3. I was under the impression one must obtain a DEA release form and a specified lab.
I believe it was e-bay. I just googled it on google shopping and I saw a bunch of people selling it. I was a little nervous that someone had sold me sugar and claimed it was 1 gram of GA3. So I was quite pleased when I saw the mad stretching which indicated it was really a hormone of some sort. The 1 gram bottle I bought is enough for 1000's of plants to go herme but I only need a few. So if it does get more controlled I will have enough. I discovered that people use GA to induce Hydrangea plants to flower. They grow the plants up to have 3 or 4 nodes, then the GA makes them stretch and flower so you think you are getting a nice plant for $15 but it's actually a tiny stressed out thing. I was thinking if I could grow a bunch of hydrangea clones and force them to flower maybe I could make some money.


Update On The Plant:
It is starting to show some flowers. Right now I can not ID any male pollen sacks yet. The thing is there is so much stretching that things look weird. My plants typically shoot out a tiny stem (like 1mm) before it starts producing flowers on that mini stem. Today I have like 20mm little stems with little flower formations on them. So with those weird deformed flowers it will be hard to tell at first. But at this point I am quite hopeful as the plant is alive and well and showing a lot of signs of hormone weirdness.
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Wow ebay how funny. cool. well I have no experience with GA3, but i wouldn't interduce the hormone until the plant is already flowering. for about a week or so, wait a couple of weeks and do it again. I wouldn't use it during vegitive growth.
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