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Old 06-08-2009, 02:48 AM
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Hi everyone!! Well i have been reading and using this great site for a bit now, it has been a great find!!!! Three new pc games unplayed on desk say so!!
Now to my idea... I have always wanted to do large scale research on my fav plant!! But never had the money to germ 10000 seeds!!
Now i think we all may have the power!!! Simple experments.. definitive answers for us all to use!! What do you all think?
I can think of a couple of the top of my head that would cost nothing but abit of recording
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:27 AM
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What kinda experiments are you thinking?
I'm starting a new grow atm so i'm happy to try something out for you
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:33 AM
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What kinda experiments are you thinking?
I'm starting a new grow atm so i'm happy to try something out for you

Well the one that got me thinking about this was this...

"Is the speed of seed casing split a indicator of the sex of the plant"

This is what made me think of this.. just got some sensi seeds Northern lights seeds, 6 of the seeds cracked after 13 hours the other 4 after 24...

Now this is only ten seeds so results mean nothing but if we can show a trend then..
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If you are keen, i will outline this as a experiment...

Any other ideas from other growers are welcome.. i am a research scientist so can do the design
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no seed sex is determined at seed development.
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no seed sex is determined at seed development.
Show me the reseach..... Statements like that are why there is a need for definitive research...

We are talking about trends... if the first cracking seeds prove to be say 60% more likely to be female, and say the top 10% in size prove to be 80% more likely to be female and the seeds with the more round end prove to be 70% more likely to be a female...
Then we have come up with a way to improve the percentages of females when it comes to doing a new grow by using those 3 indicators ie picking the biggest, round end seeds that crack first.
If i had 100 bag seeds, didnt want that many plants i would find that information useful. Not that i do that, like most people i clone... only grow from seed when i want a new strain or i feel like doing some breeding
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Dude totally agree.

I had a massive argument with someone cause i said something like "i heard aspirin changes the sex of your plant and also femenizes pollen"
A whole bunch of people said "dude thats bullshit" but not one of them could tell me why.
So i tried it and it went hermi, as for the female seeds thats what this grow is all about to see if i was right.
So dude set up some conditions for me to follow and i'll try it out with a couple of seeds.

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Show me the reseach..... Statements like that are why there is a need for definitive research...

We are talking about trends... if the first cracking seeds prove to be say 60% more likely to be female, and say the top 10% in size prove to be 80% more likely to be female and the seeds with the more round end prove to be 70% more likely to be a female...
Then we have come up with a way to improve the percentages of females when it comes to doing a new grow by using those 3 indicators ie picking the biggest, round end seeds that crack first.
If i had 100 bag seeds, didnt want that many plants i would find that information useful. Not that i do that, like most people i clone... only grow from seed when i want a new strain or i feel like doing some breeding
Seed sex is determined at seed development. That's like saying human babies don't gain gender until after they've popped out of their mother.

I would also like to note that I've had plenty of seeds all open on the same day with no pattern in gender.

I do however support the idea of everyone pitching in with experiments.

I've got two bagseed (probably) sativas that should be coming up in a couple days. I may be able to try something to help.
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i dont think u guys know what i am talking about but ya cannabis is diecious therefore seed sex is determined at seed devlopment ask anyone with a background in botany.

why does asprin not work? for the simple reason that that seed sex is determined at devlopment.

also geroge crevantes will say other wise but hes an idiot.
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i dont think u guys know what i am talking about but ya cannabis is diecious therefore seed sex is determined at seed devlopment ask anyone with a background in botany.

why does asprin not work? for the simple reason that that seed sex is determined at devlopment.

also geroge crevantes will say other wise but hes an idiot.
Asprin does work. It doesn't change the sex of the plant, it just causes female plants to hermie.

Why do I always see people ranting about Cervantes? He talks about the simple things and is a good guide for beginning growers.


Here's an idea for an experiment. Since I have two plants coming up, I can do some things that require multiple plants to grow. My idea, what are the benefits of a 8/16 light cycle over a 24/0 cycle, and vice versa.

I just got access to a bit more grow room, so I can make two small veg chambers pretty soon. Once the seeds sprout I can measure their height each day and compare things like node spacing and density.

I can also use clones later on to do the test without having to worry about plant genetics effecting the results.
 

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